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robevpau1 wrote:I was surprised there wasn't more made about the '6-6-6' warning against Collingwood and Brisbane that meant the centre bounce was changed to a ball up before Jordan de Goey’s fourth quarter goal. Seems a little bit odd to me that the team 'penalised' immediately profits from their own infringement. Crazy rule.
There was actually 2 infringements in the last qtr, possibly 2 in a row but one against each team.
But there is now big calls for the death of the bounce at last given the numerous bad bounces on the day.
Having watched the replay for the third time, I am still blown away by how amazing a game of football this was. If you haven’t I would highly recommend Bux on SEN dissecting Degoey’s second goal. So many stories but we will talk about Pendels last quarter forever, and Nick is only going to get better. He is playing the game at a level above anyone else in the league. Yes Neale can get a gazillion possessions (and I’m not bagging Neale he is a champion) but what Daicos did in that moment is beyond scary.
Pete 70 wrote:Having watched the replay for the third time, I am still blown away by how amazing a game of football this was. If you haven’t I would highly recommend Bux on SEN dissecting Degoey’s second goal. So many stories but we will talk about Pendels last quarter forever, and Nick is only going to get better. He is playing the game at a level above anyone else in the league. Yes Neale can get a gazillion possessions (and I’m not bagging Neale he is a champion) but what Daicos did in that moment is beyond scary.
Peter Daicos admitted after the GF that Nick needed 3 months to heal properly following his injury, but he was determined to play regardless. Thank goodness, he did not appear to be restricted throughout the game.
All three had GF two teams for 2024
Brisbane & Carlton
Brisbane & Melbourne
Brisbane & err! can’t remember who
Point is we never got a mention. Why do these dill,s aim to predict 12 months away
It's easy enough to explain Baz . .
1927/28/29/30 plus 3 Brownlow medalists over those years what media there was turned against us and has been after us ever since.
They turned hate Collingwood into a universal religion and use it at every opportunity to incite lynch mobs in the name of 'opinion pieces' which they deny responsibility for.
They will never change because the sheep lap it up and repeat it mindlessly whilst frothing at the mouth and twitching uncontrollably.
Yes I'm looking at you Caro you twisted little twat.
On the last Saturday in September, Collingwood rewrote the history books against the Brisbane Lions by 4 points to claim their first September premiership in 65 years since 1958 (Collingwood's previous two premierships in 1990 & 2010 were both in October), won their second closest Grand Final in club history by 4 points (1903 against Fitzroy by 2 points remains Collingwood's closest winning margin in premiership history), and to cap it all off, the Magpies have now accomplished the same number of VFL/AFL premierships as Carlton and Essendon with 16 flags, which now creates a three-way race to 17 premierships commencing in 2024.
In the opening quarter of the Grand Final, Collingwood scored the first two goals of the game, before the Lions hit back twice as hard to boot the next two majors, before the Pies closed out the quarter with two late goals to open up a 10-point lead at quarter time. For the opening 20 minutes of the second term, Brisbane built a handy lead, before the Woods struck back to change the complexion and flow of the contest over the next 15 minutes to retain their half time lead, which was 6 points at the main break. The third quarter saw Collingwood dominate territory and create several scoring shots for very little reward by booting 1.6 to 2.2, resulting in Brisbane remaining in the contest up to their eyeballs as a consequence of Collingwood's inaccuracy, and the margin at three quarter time remained in favour of the Magpies by 4 points. Wasted opportunities at goal plagued the Magpies for most of the last quarter, and when the Lions hit the front with less than six minutes of game time on the clock remaining, there were grave fears that Collingwood were going to be vanquished by a small margin once again. Seconds later, the Pies regained the lead within 30 seconds, before increasing their lead with their final goal of the game, before Brisbane conjured a surprising twist with under 100 seconds left, but would not be able to get any closer as the Magpies held their nerve once again to run and milk down the clock until the final siren, which was when ecstasy and jubilation ran wild in the stands as Collingwood had managed to vanquish Brisbane in the closest of cliffhangers by 4 points and etch their name on the right side of history.
Collingwood won most of their key statistical categories from indicators such as disposals by +32 ( 340 - 308 ), +14 for kicks (219 - 205), handballs were won by +18 (121 - 101), while uncontested possessions had a differential of +40 (213 - 173), with intercept possessions up by +11 (60 - 49), and turnovers recorded a deficit of -11 (49 - 60). Hit-outs went Collingwood's way by +18 (50 - 32), tackles had an advantage of +20 (73 - 53), with Tackles Inside 50 won by +7 (13 - 6), while marks had a margin of +6 (95 - 89), +5 for uncontested marks (86 - 81), contested marks were won narrowly by +1 ( 9 - 8 ), intercept marks were claimed by +11 (60 - 49), with a differential of +7 for Marks Inside 50 (12 - 5), and Inside 50s had a comfortable buffer of +14 (57 - 43). Brisbane won their statistical categories from sources that included clearances by +6 ( 44 - 38 ), +4 from centre clearances (14 - 10), while stoppage clearances had a narrow buffer of +2 ( 30 - 28 ). Contested possessions (122 each) was the only neutral category from the game.
Nick Daicos (29 disposals @ 72%, 444 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 12 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal assist, 8 score involvements, 2 clearances, 3 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) got off to a great start by kicking the game's opening goal, before contributing to the team's ball movement through the midfield with several piercing kicks and composed handpasses leading to scores from his possessions.
Scott Pendlebury (24 disposals @ 75%, 324 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 16 kicks, 8 handballs, 5 marks, 4 tackles, 7 score involvements, 6 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) generated ball movement from clearances, booted a crucial and settling goal late in the third term when everybody else were missing goals that needed to be kicked, while Pendlebury demonstrated his composure in the final term when the team needed players to kill the clock, which eventually allowed the Magpies to get two hands on the cup.
Tom Mitchell (24 disposals @ 88%, 246 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 13 handballs, 4 marks, 13 tackles, 2 goal assists, 7 score involvements, 7 clearances, 6 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) got his hands dirty by winning the ball first beneath the packs, while clearing the ball from stoppages in very effective fashion. Mitchell also stopped Brisbane dead in their tracks with his tackling, and ensured his kicks maintained possession or went to a contest where he had teammates there to compete aerially to mark or bring the ball to ground.
Steele Sidebottom (20 disposals @ 75%, 403 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 8 handballs, 5 marks, 7 tackles, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) played a very effective game on the wing with effective ball use, ensuring he was a marking outlet at all times, while tackling strongly to keep the ball locked in to deny the Lions quality ball movement. Sidebottom's goal from long range in the final term was a decisive moment in Collingwood's premiership.
Jordan De Goey (18 disposals @ 94%, 367 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 8 handballs, 5 marks, 4 tackles, 8 score involvements, 4 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 6 Inside 50s & 2 goals) may not have had huge numbers statistically, but the impact he produced when he won the ball was enormous. De Goey impacted centre bounces with clearances, created forward entries and opporunities for his forwards, and booted two excellent goals from long range that will not be forgotten.
Josh Daicos (17 disposals @ 59%, 468 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) accumulated possessions which resulted in territory dominance when he kicked the ball. However, his ball use by foot let him down at times, but still played his role well.
Darcy Cameron (12 disposals @ 75%, 203 metres gained, 19 hit-outs, 10 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 2 marks, 2 contested marks, 6 tackles, 3 score involvements, 4 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) fought tooth and nail to win his own ball at ground level, as much as his ability to win ruck contests and marking contests around the ground. Cameron's want to win the contested ball and tackle hard were also notbale features.
Mason Cox (7 disposals @ 43%, 31 hit-outs, 5 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 5 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 3 contested marks, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 2 clearances & 2 stoppage clearances) was chiefly responsible for giving his midfielders enough opportunities to win clearances in the middle of the ground to create goals from them. Cox also took a few excellent marks, but was wasteful in front of goal.
Jack Crisp (25 disposals @ 72%, 456 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 9 handballs, 7 marks, 2 contested marks, 5 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 goals) played a tremendous game off half-back with periods of midfield time added in for good measure. Crisp played a high-octane game with his ball movement being aggressive, attacking and damaging. Crisp nailed two critical goals in the second term that gave his team belief and confidence off the back of them.
Jeremy Howe (24 disposals @ 88%, 591 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 6 handballs, 9 marks, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements & 8 Rebound 50s) was in sublime touch with his exceptional ability to take intercept marks, before creating significant rebounds from defence that maintained possession or resulted in scoring shots when Howe pushed higher up the field.
Patrick Lipinski (16 disposals @ 81%, 134 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 4 kicks, 12 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 4 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 2 Inside 50s) played a crucial role when he came on as the substitute for Nathan Murphy, and was able to pierce Brisbane's defensive grid and zone with excellent handpasses through the gauntlet. Lipinski also won clearances and stuck his tackles when they eventuated.
Brayden Maynard (13 disposals @ 77%, 261 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) impacted the game with ball movement that resulted in scoring chains, while producing quality rebound off the last line of defence.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (12 disposals @ 50%, 175 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) provided defensive cover as a utility that can play in multiple positions and roles on the ground. Hoskin-Elliott had an influence with his marking game shining through, and some of his possessions resulted in scores.
Isaac Quaynor (12 disposals @ 100%, 272 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 2 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist & 4 score involvements) held his own against Charlie Cameron, and ensured he played his role by winning the ball back at the right times, and executing his foot skills to perfection under pressure. Quaynor's kick to Sidebottom, which resulted in Collingwood's last goal must not be underestimated.
Oleg Markov (12 disposals @ 83%, 241 metres gained, 11 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) played his role to the best of his ability with run off half-back, composed ball use and contributed to scoring chains whenever he took the game on.
Bobby Hill (18 disposals @ 72%, 259 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 14 kicks, 4 handballs, 8 marks, 6 Marks Inside 50, 5 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 9 score involvements & 4 goals) played an immense role in Collingwood's premiership team by winning the Norm Smith medal for his ability to turn the game back in favour of the Magpies with 4 goals in the first half, of which Hill converted 3 of them in the all-important second term when the contest was at its hottest. Hill had opportunities to fill his boots after half time but failed to convert goals in the last two quarters.
Jamie Elliott (14 disposals @ 64%, 246 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 7 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 4 tackles, 8 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 5 Inside 50s) provided a marking option at all times for his teammates as a high half-forward and gave his fellow forward counterparts opportunities to score goals.
Beau McCreery (13 disposals @ 62%, 310 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 3 handballs, 3 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 8 score involvements & 5 Inside 50s) was electric and lively up forward without kicking any goals, which would've been annoying for him. To McCreery's credit, he played a similar role to Elliott with his ability to roll up high and work his way back towards goal by setting up a major to Bobby Hill in the first term, and was involved in countless scoring chains throughout the day.
Brody Mihocek (10 disposals @ 90%, 269 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 4 handballs, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) worked hard for his marks by pushing up to the flanks and wings at all times to take marks or bring the ball to ground for ground level players to thrive, while Mihocek snapped an impressive goal from the pocket in the first term to lift his team.
That's all she wrote for the 2023 season. An impressive culimination which saw Collingwood join Carlton and Essendon on 16 premierships, and will be odds-on favourite to be the first AFL club to 17 premierships as early as next year. There will be motivation for Daniel McStay and John Noble to have premiership medallions around their neck before their careers draw to a close, while the Magpies will look to take greater steps in 2024 to ensure the same outcome that eventuated in the final game of the 2023 season.
Last edited by JC Hartley on Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:30 pm, edited 3 times in total.
robevpau1 wrote:I was surprised there wasn't more made about the '6-6-6' warning against Collingwood and Brisbane that meant the centre bounce was changed to a ball up before Jordan de Goey’s fourth quarter goal. Seems a little bit odd to me that the team 'penalised' immediately profits from their own infringement. Crazy rule.
I'd like to see what the infringements were for (who the players that stuffed up were). Surely there's an overhead camera view that shows.
Must include Crispy's goals, in my highlights.
