I was just wondering does anyone know how far back it goes where the AFL Players have been in trouble lets say for ALCHOHOLISM?
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dan, this is an interesting question, particularly as I work in drug treatment services for the vic govt.
LD is right. alcohol and drugs have existed virtually since the dawn of human civilisation. for example, people have used heroin and opiates for thousands of years.
aussie rules (and most other footy codes) have always had a boozie, alcohol culture. in some clubs, it is ingrained - no names mentioned, OK St Kilda. with the advent of professionalism, I guess the alcohol problem has been reduced in the AFL, as coaches demand a zero tolerance policy, but it is certainly still rife at the grassroots level, in amateur ranks (RCT, you may disagree), and in country leagues. many small clubs need revenue from pokies and the sale of alcohol to survive, and there is a lot of peer pressure.
of course, alcoholism has wrecked many lives. former saints player, rod owen, is in a jail for assaulting someone when he was drunk. closer to home, there is the tragedy of darren millane, also c'wood have fired players for drunken behaviour, i.e. hotton, james. kinnear and scotland also got some unwanted media attention this year.
it's not also restricted to aussie rules. rugby league has had its fair share of alcohol related problems. in premier league soccer, it is also rife. everton's paul gascoigne is a recovering alcoholic, and earlier this year, chelsea players got into trouble for making insensitive remarks about the american hijacking tragedy while they were on a bender. cricket also has a boozie culture, with players in post game celebrations getting stuck into the piss. the west indies marlon black was bashed in melb by drunk cricket fans.
a lot of it has to do with sponsorship. we are constantly bombarded with images that has to do with alcohol. the AFL has a big sponsorship with CUB. the premier league is sponsored by Carling and the league cup by worthington, both of which are beers. there is also a lack of education at clubs, about peer pressure and the dangers of alcoholism.
however, as I said, the advent of professionalism has reduced this alcohol culture. at other clubs, we have seen shannon grant from the roos dropped and others sacked. I must admit though, there must be a lot of these incidents that are still going on in the AFL, that are not in the media or are swept under the carpet.
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LD is right. alcohol and drugs have existed virtually since the dawn of human civilisation. for example, people have used heroin and opiates for thousands of years.
aussie rules (and most other footy codes) have always had a boozie, alcohol culture. in some clubs, it is ingrained - no names mentioned, OK St Kilda. with the advent of professionalism, I guess the alcohol problem has been reduced in the AFL, as coaches demand a zero tolerance policy, but it is certainly still rife at the grassroots level, in amateur ranks (RCT, you may disagree), and in country leagues. many small clubs need revenue from pokies and the sale of alcohol to survive, and there is a lot of peer pressure.
of course, alcoholism has wrecked many lives. former saints player, rod owen, is in a jail for assaulting someone when he was drunk. closer to home, there is the tragedy of darren millane, also c'wood have fired players for drunken behaviour, i.e. hotton, james. kinnear and scotland also got some unwanted media attention this year.
it's not also restricted to aussie rules. rugby league has had its fair share of alcohol related problems. in premier league soccer, it is also rife. everton's paul gascoigne is a recovering alcoholic, and earlier this year, chelsea players got into trouble for making insensitive remarks about the american hijacking tragedy while they were on a bender. cricket also has a boozie culture, with players in post game celebrations getting stuck into the piss. the west indies marlon black was bashed in melb by drunk cricket fans.
a lot of it has to do with sponsorship. we are constantly bombarded with images that has to do with alcohol. the AFL has a big sponsorship with CUB. the premier league is sponsored by Carling and the league cup by worthington, both of which are beers. there is also a lack of education at clubs, about peer pressure and the dangers of alcoholism.
however, as I said, the advent of professionalism has reduced this alcohol culture. at other clubs, we have seen shannon grant from the roos dropped and others sacked. I must admit though, there must be a lot of these incidents that are still going on in the AFL, that are not in the media or are swept under the carpet.
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you are right greg. heroin was created in 1874 and was originally marketed as a safe, non-addictive substitute for morphine. in its purest form, it is probably a very effective analgesic, however it was quickly noted that heroin also produced dependency very quickly in some individuals, so it was banned.
the opium poppy has been around for about 6,000 years, where old summerian texts refer to it as the 'joy plant'.
however, alcohol and smoking are still the worst drugs in australia. they kill far more people than heroin, cocaine, and all the other drugs combined.
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the opium poppy has been around for about 6,000 years, where old summerian texts refer to it as the 'joy plant'.
however, alcohol and smoking are still the worst drugs in australia. they kill far more people than heroin, cocaine, and all the other drugs combined.
"consectatio excellentiae"