Our draft record under Derek Hine et al

[lazzadesilva]

Hmmnnnn..… …….…I remember a few Nicksters wanting him sacked a few years ago. Funny how the wheel turns.

[Pies2016]

^ ^ ^
But not the ones who understand recruiting / drafting will never be an exact science. Hine has had his misses but when you stack up his win / loss ratio against others, it’s up there amongst the best. People need to understand his job is to identify ( mainly ) junior talent. He doesn’t manage the salary cap, nor is he gifted those low picks very often because we’ve been more competitive than most in recent years. Its also not his job to develop that talent once he gets it through the door either.
In a highly specialised industry, we lucky to have a talent identification manager who knows the game as well as he does.

[inxs88]

Interesting footage inside the club recruiters bunker on draft night with the club rating Arie Schoenmaker for the second round pick. With Jiath still available at pick 39, we swooped, pardon the pun, then packed up, Hine does a presser and the team bailed.

Now, consider this. With a pre-arranged agenda of only taking two picks, Schoenmakers slips through to our third pick on the night, yet we aren't their to take advantage of this. St Kilda ultimately take him at pick 62 and we default to the Summer equivalent of a "football reality show" whereby we have a Supplementary List Playoff for not one, two or three, but now four (McStay injury) players to complete our list.

The point being, is that by ignoring picks 40-64 on Draft Night, taking zero rookies or Pre-season selections, we are now auditioning players nominally and industry ranked at 85+ in terms of their footy ranking in:

* Josh Eyre
* Sam Sofronidis
* Jack Bytel
* Campbell Hustwaite
* Lachie Sullivan
* Brynn Teakle &
* Ned Long

If they just have stayed put and done what they did in 2014 with Tom Langdon falling to pick 65, we may have snared a talent in Schoenmakers who by the club's own admission was rated in the top 35.

Many may see this as a moot point as we bask in the glory of 2023 Premiership aftermath bliss, but I'll be watching Schoenmaker's career with great interest.

[LaurieHolden]

All good in theory until the real reason he slipped to pick 62 and was lucky to be picked up at all emerges.
Basically his character assessment saw clubs close the book.

[Rex]

Few draft picks outside the top ten make an impact in their first year. Collingwood is in the window, so it’s an obvious strategy to go for mature players who can immediately step in to replace injuries. That’s why we stopped at two picks and have set up an entertaining pre-season. And apart from who and how many get picked up, having half a dozen mature players desperate to prove themselves raises the tension for the whole group and is a great antidote to any post-granny drop off in intensity.

[Pies2016]

^^^

I think Rex makes some good points in the clubs possible thinking. Clearly Schoenmakers was considered a risk by most clubs given where he was selected and once he is selected, he comes with a two year min commitment.
The beauty of PSS candidates and MSD selections is that they don’t come with an initial two year commitment or contract. In the case of PSS candidates, the club gets to see them close up and personal before making any final decisions on them. Any MSD selection will have likely had half a season of their current form on display to help with any clubs decision to draft them or not.
Personally, I like what the club has done. What better exposure to a number of potential late additions to the list could you get, than to have them directly under the watchful eyes of the clubs coaching panel for a couple months.

[RudeBoy]

I wouldn't be taking too seriously what the club says about who we rated, when and where. In truth, it's all smoke and mirrors. So far, under the guidance of Wright, I've become very confident in the drafting strategy and tactics of our recruiters. Of course, only time will tell.

[piedys]

All good in theory until the real reason he slipped to pick 62 and was lucky to be picked up at all emerges.
Basically his character assessment saw clubs close the book.

And this was disclosed where exactly?
Did he tell bad jokes?
Does he regularly beat his girlfriend?
Does he drown puppies and kittens in his spare time?
Seriously, what's the dirt on him FFS?!

[Jezza]

Seriously, what's the dirt on him FFS?!

Sent you a PM of what's been alleged.

[think positive]

Sent you a PM of what's been alleged.

Me too please!

And I hope you have a great new years mate!
Cheers!

[think positive]

I did find this:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/ ... 77f87e57e3

[Pies2016]

^^^
That’s probably the reason he eventually made his way to StKilda.

[think positive]

true, but not the worst thing, next

[inxs88]

He was always going to slide due to this infringement but let's not forget Charlie Curnow was caught drink driving 7 days before the Draft.

[LaurieHolden]

^ the slide wasn't from the drinking; it was what proceeded that. The drinking / buying alcohol for minors, even if they were team-mates effectively confirmed the warning signals on his character.