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See a lot of gut hanging out men propped on shovels too!
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There seem to be at least two guys hanging around each girl on worksites. If she is blonde then it is 3 or 4.
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Skids wrote:My old mates at Roy Hill just copped another kick in the guts.

NPI Superintendent role was vacant. Long standing supervisor in the department had been seconded into the role and was the obvious choice for the position.
Nope. A young female has been appointed to the $250k+ role.

No experience in the position but will be carried along regardless.
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Hard to imagine how she couldn't have succeeded, with such supportive colleagues...
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Supportive colleagues? She was gifted the job even though she had no experience in the role and hadn't even worked in a supervisory role. Should never have been appointed and only was because of her gender.

Oh don't worry, they'll invent some new role, maybe Superintendent of internal.communications or something along those lines, offer her a 10% pay increase and beg her to stay.
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This came up in my twitter feed.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1746515707360088486

So the gender pay gap is purely based on annual salaries so it stands to reason that women will collectively earn less as they usually elect to work part time particularly while their children are growing up
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Choosing statistics that support the outcome you prefer? That never happens.

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There certainly is a gender gap. 97% of deaths in the workplace are males.
Two thirds of suicides are male. 60% of the homeless are males. 95% of prisoners are male.
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Homeless women in their 50s are the fastest-growing statistic in the past few years.
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If the gender pay gap is attributed to mothers/women electing to work part time, the only fix is to pay them the same as males who work full time with overtime - which would have disastrous consequences.
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^ There are actually quite a few other more practical solutions, for instance: improving childcare funding and rebates to make it easier for women to return to work earlier; encouraging more fathers to share a more hands-on parenting role by increasing paternity leave provisions; and addressing other issues that tend to cause a wage gap in higher-earning brackets such as salary transparency.
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^

There's a hell of a lot more to it than just more women choosing to work part time, lots of which I'm sure was covered earlier in the thread. A large contributing factor is the number of occupations that predominantly employ women that are poorly paid.

And what about the number of women who choose not to work after having kids because their partner earns enough that they don't have to.

Simply pulling a set of numbers together without proper context and huffing and puffing about there being a gender pay gap and we need to fix it is, IMHO, just virtue signalling bullshit and finger pointing.

A good starting point would be to increase wages of front line people working in child care/kinders but since most of the money comes from the state governments, it's easier to huff and puff and point the finger at large corporates.
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Where I tend to agree is that "the wage gap" is just a slogan, and that any serious approach to the issue should be drilling down into the statistics further and finding areas where there are specific problems that need to be addressed.

Having said that, sometimes people need simplistic slogans to get interested in something in the first place.
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