What'sinaname wrote:From 2015 - 2019, the only player (not FS) from the National Draft still on the list is IQ.
From 2020 - only McCreery has played a solid amount of games . We traded away Henry.
We seem to pick up players through trading who are doing well, but our inability to get meaningful contributions through the National Draft is a concern.
What'sinaname wrote: WarburtonLad, Our draft / trade strategy has been hit or miss since 2021..We've got 5 games from our entire 2021 National Draft selections and 1 game from the entire 2022 National Draft selection.
What'sinaname wrote:^ The drafting issues go back quite a few years and coupled with an intention to trade away Rd 1 picks, we are in a precarious position where have have very thin depth, coupled with an aging side. This isn't going to fix itself in the short term either.
That now moves us on from the 2021-2022 draft years you specified. So let's now look at the years you refer to ~
2015 AFL Draft and Trade Period (10 players in) https://www.draftguru.com.au/clubs/collingwood#2015
115 picks 30 trades 45 (avg)
Adam Treloar Traded for #2016R1 (Collingwood) + #7 + #65 (with #28) AA40: 2016, 2017, 2019.
James Aish Traded for #26 + #2016R2 (St Kilda)
Jeremy Howe Traded for #29 + #50 + Kennedy (with Toumpas) AA40: 2017; Prem: 2023
Organic picks remaining #32, #58, #63, #65.
National Draft pick 32 Brayden Sier
National Draft pick 58 Tom Phillips
National Draft pick 63 Rupert Wills
National Draft pick 65 Ben Crocker
Rookie Draft pick 25 Josh Smith
Rookie Draft pick 55 Tim Golds
Rookie Draft pick 64 Darrean Wyatt
5 of the Top 20 went to Sydney, GWS & Lions Academy picks (2 in the top 10)
6 players > pick #32 have gone on to play >100 games.
6 players from the rookie draft have gone on to play > 100 games.
So for 2015, without applying hindsight, was pick #7 and our 2016 first rounder too great a price to play for a player that has gone on to play 238 games? 3x AA squads while he was on our list. To date he's played 238 games.
2015 was a year we also traded in Jeremy Howe and James Aish.
2015 was about list requirements, not looking through to 2024.
I'll complete the 2016 + lists as we go. But what I'm getting to is, has our list management been that poor? Most of what you are referring to is what we are lacking in 2024. Hindsight from 2024 is subjective. Sure, we could have gone about it a different way.
Isolating the organic or National Draft is only part of a Clubs list management strategy. There's one deciding factor in all of this, and as it's been suggested, he should not have been allowed to over-ride the board or football departments list management decisions. It didn't happen during the Malthouse years, as Malthouse was able to stand his ground.
I'd suggest Hine has kept his position because the Club knows it has one of the best in the competition.