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[David]

[pietillidie]

[David]

[Magpietothemax]

^Absolutely.
The vast masses of the population are appalled and devastated that no government today offers the slightest intention to address climate change.
Capitalist governments, on behalf of their corporate backers, are hell bent on protecting profits, which means that they will do nothing to address climate change.
To blame the population for the refusal of governments to address climate change is absurd.

[pietillidie]

^Blind ideology, both of you.

(I just wrote a huge reply listing the massive number of major respected agencies all supporting climate change mitigation from 1995-2005 and it vanished as I was logged out during that time. I couldn't even retrieve it going back/forward in the browser. Grrrrr. Do a Google search and limit it back in time and you can see them, neoliberal or not.).

The sum of what I wrote was this: every single major global and national body bar a very tiny few right across the planet, most very heavy publishers, supported mitigation. Meanwhile, sceptic content was a teeny tiny fraction limited to - you guessed it - blogs and social media, and columns like Bolt.

You're actually so ideologically and emotionally attached to the fantasy of 'you and the people versus powerful evil', you can't even contemplate that the vast majority of people chose themselves to deny climate change for petty, parochial and pocket-lining reasons. And they certainly don't support you and your ideas all by themselves.

The available content would be lucky to be worse that 80-20 climate mitigation, and 99-1 reputation (i.e., the reputation of the mitigation versus denial organisations/individuals/bloggers was impeccable, crossing politics, including every 'neoliberal' org you hate., from the WTO and OECD, to unexpected orgs like the IAEA and US EPA.

Yet people still voted for Howard and Abbott and supported their denialism. Why? Because they wanted to. They were driven by petty, ugly drives as individuals responding to their own motives and perceived self-benefit. They overlooked every major international, government, research, health, university, city and council organisation because they wanted to all by themselves.

People choose the content to suit their biases because they want to, intrinsically, contrary Chomsky's fantasies that they would all think like him if not trapped under socio-economic Stockholm Syndrome. They voted for creepy malignant narcissist Trump all by themselves for their own petty, pathetic reasons, from 'owning the libs', getting bigger high fives at church, or making more money by ignoring environmental laws and discriminating against people all by themselves.

It's as clear as day when you do even a cursory content analysis, looking at was was readily and prominently available to readers, right across the internet. The fact is that time and again, under no duress, people wilfully use their vote exactly as they want to.

[Culprit]

The 81-year-old woman (Pie Supporter) was run down by a DH on a E Scooter, He's been arrested.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-ne ... 3513befb6c

I didn't know this was BW Phantom's Mum. Glad to hear she is on the improve and fantastic by the Club posting videos for her.

The guy should be charged with attempted Murder.

[LaurieHolden]

^

Thanks for the link. How good was that message to her from Daicos / The Club.

[David]

[Pi]

interesting article on healing ACL ruptures

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-09/ ... /103816688

[stui magpie]

The 81-year-old woman (Pie Supporter) was run down by a DH on a E Scooter, He's been arrested.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-ne ... 3513befb6c

I didn't know this was BW Phantom's Mum. Glad to hear she is on the improve and fantastic by the Club posting videos for her.

The guy should be charged with attempted Murder.

Phantom sent me the link without context, I didn't realise it was his mum but she seems OK and the douche has been denied bail, remanded in custody.

[Culprit]

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/man-charg ... er-hit-run

A 46-year-old Melbourne man has been charged with recklessly cause injury, reckless conduct endangering serious injury and aggravated assault of a female.

The beauty of this is his head is on full display and he will be named at the bail hearing.

[What'sinaname]

^Absolutely.
The vast masses of the population are appalled and devastated that no government today offers the slightest intention to address climate change.
Capitalist governments, on behalf of their corporate backers, are hell bent on protecting profits, which means that they will do nothing to address climate change.
To blame the population for the refusal of governments to address climate change is absurd.

The biggest contributor to climate change is the increased population. The Earth is over populated and more land is used for farming / agriculture.

The real answer to climate change is to reduce the population of the planet.

[stui magpie]

I read an article the other day about how pumping out groundwater over decades, largely in the Northern Hemisphere, has resulted in a slight shift in the Earths axis meaning that the northern hemisphere gets hotter temperatures and we get cooler ones.

The biggest enemy of the climate change activists has been themselves IMO. They've been spruiking doom and gloom for decades and to date, all of their predictions have been wrong.

Go back over the history of histrionic predictions and the North Pole should have been Ice free by now.

[pietillidie]

^Absolutely.
The vast masses of the population are appalled and devastated that no government today offers the slightest intention to address climate change.
Capitalist governments, on behalf of their corporate backers, are hell bent on protecting profits, which means that they will do nothing to address climate change.
To blame the population for the refusal of governments to address climate change is absurd.

The biggest contributor to climate change is the increased population. The Earth is over populated and more land is used for farming / agriculture.

The real answer to climate change is to reduce the population of the planet.

Genuinely the dumbest thing you've ever said. You're easily influenced by the dim web (quite different to the dark web), but you're still normally sharp enough to avoid stepping in the worst doggie doo.

Come back when you've understood the demographic transition in depth, and grasped why no self-respecting specialist on the entire earth in any related field considers that a sensible suggestion, despite it having been used as a facepalm-inducing Facebook cut and paste for years.

Once you've dealt with the demographic transition, your next project could be beating gravity to help reduce the number of hip replacements.

[pietillidie]

The biggest enemy of the climate change activists has been themselves IMO. They've been spruiking doom and gloom for decades and to date, all of their predictions have been wrong.

Not you, too! I guess what you're getting at is that they crap on about all manner of peripheral apocalyptic stuff and act as if they know things like exact dates (by 2020, whatever, whatever).

But their core point about the mechanism of global warming and its far-reaching, high-risk effects, and the astronomical costs associated with those effects, are unfortunately right enough. The data is out of hand, and their very worst 'tipping point' acceleration predictions were scarily right. Trillions of dollars of annual direct and insurance costs, and god knows what else (including genuinely scary stuff, like unpredictable effects on disease regimes), here we come. By the same token, half a degree reduction has the very opposite effects at that level of mathematical sensitivity, so the effects are genuinely dramatic whether letting the greenhouse effects run too high, or mercifully reining it on.

Their reputation works against them, but scientists and financial risk managers don't get their info from them.