Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player movements

[jatsad]

But I suspect we'll miss out on everyone important, because Collingwood sadly doesn't do well in the trade period. Clubs don't want to deal with us.

That's not true.
Bobby Hill, Frampton, Mitchell were all trades in the one year. If it suits the club, they'll do business.

[David]

I wouldn't be giving Keane any smoke over this – he's entitled to explore his options and talk to us; and if the Crows upped their offer as a result then he's also entitled to reconsider his decision to leave. That's all part of the process, and I have no time for arguments that all the power should rest with clubs as opposed to players when it comes to trade negotiations.

[BBHS]

Us paying to get Keane seemed a bit wrong to be honest. Bloke walked out on us.
Stringer, I'm not sure there is a player I've given more shit too. My hands may shatter into glass if I started to clap his efforts.

[jonmac1954]

I wouldn't be giving Keane any smoke over this – he's entitled to explore his options and talk to us; and if the Crows upped their offer as a result then he's also entitled to reconsider his decision to leave. That's all part of the process, and I have no time for arguments that all the power should rest with clubs as opposed to players when it comes to trade negotiations.

David I agree . . . somewhat.

Players put their bodies on the line and give up most normal freedoms to create a worthwhile career and thus deserve respect and a fitting reward for their efforts and sacrifices.

But . . .

Clubs also invest heavily in players making sure they have all the facilities and structure to become successful AFL footballers.

So . . .

In my opinion one cancels out the other and the scales are level.

But . . .

The media and player managers concoct the most fantastic lies to get their way yet if the club is seen to be anything less than accommodating to a departing player they are publicly pilloried.

FAR too much power resides in the hands of player managers encouraging a culture of greed and deceptiveness.

The scales have tipped far too much in favor of the player managers and the gutless AFL are to blame.

[BEAMER09]

DeGoey and Stringer between middle and forward … as bruce mcavaney once said ‘delicious’…

[Pies4shaw]

^ Guarantees a senior spot for Sidey for another 5 years - someone's got to do their chasing and tackling for them.

[piedys]

If we can get Dan Houston as well that would make a great trade period. At the very least we MUST do something.

The guy would have rocks in his head to want to remain at Port Powder Puffs after tonight's abomination.
Many walk-outs at three-quarter time again. Straight sets coming up for these finals frauds.

[Jen2310]

Forget Houston
Get in the ear of Bergman.

[SLORT]

For all those boo-hooing the possible roping of Stringer, take a look at Stengle. If your club is good at people management then one should have faith that they can take a diamond in the rough and with a bit of spit and polish produce a gem. Otherwise you're basically left waiting for a savior whilst you spend years languishing at the bottom of the ladder recruiting talented boy after talented boy. Unless you're saying Geebung is a special case, and we could never hope to replicate what they do.

Looking back through the history I'm reminded of the almost trade that got boo-hood out the door. Plugger. And still people would say "no, no, we dodged a bullet!".

Either we are a great club that gets the best out of our people, or we're not.

[Piesnchess]

He's more than that. He's an AA attacking backman. Nothing dour about him at all.
But I suspect we'll miss out on everyone important, because Collingwood sadly doesn't do well in the trade period. Clubs don't want to deal with us.

I meant dour in the perspective that he never gives up. ever. Dunno bout trade period. we can get em sometimes, lookat Bobby Hill, McStay. two very good trade pickups.

[Big T]

Trading I am generally happy with apart from when we trade away our first round pick for an established player, always ends in disaster.

It’s the draft that has let us down either that or youth development

[RudeBoy]

@Big T Speaking of disasters, we have also wasted several first round picks on players who never cut the mustard - the names Scharenberg, Freeman and Stephenson immediately come to mind.

[LaurieHolden]

@RudeBoy Two of those succumbed to career ending injuries before they got started. When the young Scharenberg was touted by Mark Williams as the best schoolboy prospect since Wayne Carey, no-one was complaining. Freeman was lightning quick and an area we needed addressed.
Stephenson debut season was as exciting as any I've seen. Who knew we'd have not been able to mould his character in line with our culture, even if it was apparent at such a young age.
But this discussion of draft busts belongs in another thread, and already well picked over.

[mattdally]

Stephenson debut season was as exciting as any I've seen. Who knew we'd have not been able to mould his character in line with our culture, even if it was apparent at such a young age.

I would argue that Stephenson was indeed a product of the culture we had in place at the time!! We tend to forget that a lot has changed since 2018

[warburton lad]

Ok- So this is how I would approach this Trade/Draft Period- it may seem ultra-aggressive but I believe we need to be aggressive

Our current Draft hand is as follows: 32, 48, 50

1) Noble and Pick 32 for Alex Davies and Pick 20
2) Richards for Pick 37 (Port)
3) Collingwood future first to Richmond for Pick 21 & Pick 39 this year's Draft
4) Bundle our Picks 37, 39 & 48 (1231 points) for Brisbane Pick 14 (1161 points).
5) Pick 50 and Fin Macrae for Peatling GWS (he is out of contract and we can offer him 4 years at, say $600K/annum).
6) Offer Stringer a three year deal and Essendon Pick 72 (they sound like they are happy to 'lose' him...)
7) Offer Haynes (GWS) a two year deal- he is an Unrestricted Free Agent...

** Alternately- we can look at the following two Unrestricted Free Agents from Adelaide- Elliott Himmelberg 200cms and 25 years of age: Ben Keays- Adelaide- 185cms and 89kgs and 27 years of age.
** Unrestricted Free Agent- Harry Perryman- GWS- 186cms- 25years old
** Unrestricted Free Agent- Adam Tomlinson- Melb- 193cms and 87kgs - 31years old- wingman & swingman...
** Unrestricted Free Agent- Jason Johannison- 32 year old- 180cm running half back

In summary:

Outs: Noble, Macrae, Richards and Picks 32, 37, 39, 48 & 50

Ins: Alex Davies, Peatling, Stringer, Haynes and Picks 14 and 21...

Then we can go to the draft, confident that we can acquire two talls (Whitlocks, Mraz, Tom Sims-199cms or Alex Dodson- 203cm ruck from SA)