Shawry Gone!!! Coincidence?

[Joel]

See on the news that Shawry has resigned from the coaching job. Lets hope he stays involved somehow at the club and good luck to Shaw from now on. Hopefully Collingwood can find a suitable replacement. Also does anyone realise Shaw's resignation comes as Essendon tries to negotiate a deal with Sheedy? Does this mean anything?

[Joel]

Another thing, although this is a long shot at the moment. I heard Eddie on the news speaking of TWO coaches. Sheedy and Pagan?
I think that would be a good combination. As with Dermie and Lyon. But the first two are the experienced coaches. What does everyone think?

[Broadie]

The "2 coaches" idea touted by Eddie is a recipe for trouble. We need solid direction and a single voice to give players the direction and focus that has been lacking.

We must also have an experienced coach. As much as I have great respect for Dermie and his football brain, we need a coach that the players will follow without question - a coach they will trust because of proven success elsewhere.

If we can't land Sheedy or Pagan or Malthouse (my personal preference due to his proven ability to develop and mould young players) we should still go for a current coach - like Fabulous Phil. Dermie or Lyon would be fantastic assistants, with a view to senior coaching in 2002+.

Congratulations to Shaw and the club for allowing a champion to go with dignity. I may not support him as a coach, but he is one of the finest to don the Black and White.

[Fradam]

I think it's sad that the Collingwood Football Club decided not to support Shaw for next year. Shawys win / loss record isn't good but with the develpoment of the young players in the past 12 months promises a bright future for the team and Tony is not going to benefit from it, some other coach will.

[Pie no sauce]

The greatest coincidence is that the two largest issues on hand have merged;
1. The Coaching pozzie
2. The mouth watering draft picks

The BB's are running hot re these two major items. On the coaching options, the one's I've heard of and their status are as follows,

Brereton, untried, known as a thinker, would prefer to work "part-time"
Garry Lyon, untried, suit assistant role for his mentoring capabilities.
Peter Schwab, untried, unknown to me, would rate as extremely dubious.
Paul Roos, untried, not a thinker, probably a Frawley "type".
Mark Thompson, has assistant experience. would be a punt and we don't want to punt.
Denis Pagan, no personality but has the results, a goer if he can break his contract, would probably bring McKernan with him!
Malthouse, my preferred pick. best of breed, very doubtful acquisition possibilities.
Carman, SAFL experience, true champ, presence personified, my second pick.
Hafey, great track record. don't be surprised if he's involved somewhere as the guy is ALL heart and would be terrific for young player development.
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writing this it came to me that "presence" is what *seems* to be missing with Shawy unfortunately. We need a Coach who is held in awe by the players. McHale, Jeans, et al.
Also, we need someone who can work side by side with Eddie.
Of note it was good to hear from Shawy that Neil Balme is respected and valued as a contributor.

[Pete the Pieman]

Sheedy!

With all the talent they have had, he's won one flag in the last thirteen years, exactly the same record as us.

You'd have to be joking. he'd have King at CHB, Sav on a wing and Betheras as first ruck.

Spare me the agony, please!

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Pete the Pieman

[Pie no sauce]

In total agreement PtP, he also seems to cause too much disruption and controversy.

[bokka]

I definitley don't agree that presence is Shawy's problem. Actually he seems to have improved this year as a coach except in one area which is tactical match coaching. I think he'd be great to stay on as one of the coaching staff in any area except match coaching. He's been developiong the players a lot better and the skill level seems to ahve gone up recently.
Like last week for the first time this year a pie game was described as high standard in the media.
Wouldn't be surprised if Dermie excels in match coaching, but who knows? Im saying that based on his commentary which seems very visionary, plus he has the flare. But fab phil could be a great option.
Let's not just get some old coach and have a clone of their old side's style. That seems pretty stodgy to me. Winning at all cost isn't everything, we also want to have our own style and ideas.

[Pie no sauce]

I agree he has presence, he's a solid gold bloke with enough G+D to sink a ship but,,, his problem has been (and this is speculation on my behalf) moving from a player to a coach in such a short time that at first half the guys he was coaching were his rouse-about team mates. Perhaps Monkey is the measure here, what I meant was that we need the sort of guy that would have Monkey sitting down quietly, eyes wide open and really listening.
Brereton would be great I reckon but personally I wouldn't take the punt as he wants to do it part time. Plus he's a board member at Hawthorn. I'd love to be wrong though.
Lastly, I reckon Tommy Tee Shirt would be a fantastic mentor coach for the young guys and the likes of please-believe-in-yourself Sav. The really good thing about Hafey is his honesty, loyalty and very special interpersonal communication skills.
Final lasty, I wonder if Daics will get a guernsey as special Pele assistant? He hasn't got a snow-flakes of Coach but he'd be great for skills transfer.
Can't resist one more - what about Banksy for stoush coach!!!