rand corp wrote:Maybe someone wants to trade Ponting already!
Ponting's captaincy has been quite ordinary. If we lose the Ashes (which is highly likely) he will never live down winning the toss and electing to bowl at Edgebaston.
The Ashes Test 5 - The Decider
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Ponting's captaincy has been quite ordinary. If we lose the Ashes (which is highly likely) he will never live down winning the toss and electing to bowl at Edgebaston.
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Great first day of changing fortunes ... with the situation very even at close of play.
England needs their tail to wag a bit.
Great bowling by Warne ... Great batting by Strauss and Freddie.
Anything could happen here ... Aussie win ... Pommie win ... tie ...thrilling draw ... boring draw ... or just a good old fashioned English wash-out.
Whatever happens, this is the greatest Test series of all time.
COME ON POMMY, COME ON, COME ON ...
England needs their tail to wag a bit.
Great bowling by Warne ... Great batting by Strauss and Freddie.
Anything could happen here ... Aussie win ... Pommie win ... tie ...thrilling draw ... boring draw ... or just a good old fashioned English wash-out.
Whatever happens, this is the greatest Test series of all time.
COME ON POMMY, COME ON, COME ON ...
Line and Length ... Line and Length ... Line and Length
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Don't just knight him, deify him. Make him the object of a new religion.rand corp wrote:Regardless of the result, knight Shane Warne now and I don't give a stuff where he drinks, what he smokes, who he dials nor who he pokes.
The man is an out and out superstar. if it wasn't for him, we would be FUBAR'd.
And yes, Tony Francis, i did. The look on Pietersen's mug was priceless. He just stood there while his tiny brain tried to process how the %$^ he just got clean bowled.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Ponting, Hayden and Gillespie for Flintoff?
Seriously the aussies need to find an all rounder. Gone are the days when they can rely on 4 front line bowlers. McGrath and Warne are ageing, Gillespie is crap, kaspa is crap, tait has a way to go, Macgill is out of favour with selectors, symonds is not a good enough bowler. Watson is the obvious choice but cant get fit.
Is there a good all rounder out there. We ened the 5 bowlers without losing a batting place.
Seriously the aussies need to find an all rounder. Gone are the days when they can rely on 4 front line bowlers. McGrath and Warne are ageing, Gillespie is crap, kaspa is crap, tait has a way to go, Macgill is out of favour with selectors, symonds is not a good enough bowler. Watson is the obvious choice but cant get fit.
Is there a good all rounder out there. We ened the 5 bowlers without losing a batting place.
There's more to life than footy.........just not much more.
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We needed to bowl out the poms for sub 250. With the rain coming, we are only gonna get a chance to bat once. Our only hope is if Gilly fires and we make 500 odd before lunch on 3rd day.
I believe Wasim Akram is out of contract and out of favour with the Pakis. Maybe we could entice him to come down.DaVe86 wrote:Is there a good all rounder out there. We ened the 5 bowlers without losing a batting place.
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Our All Rounder options in the coming season.
Andrew Symons
His meat pies are easy pickings outside of the one day environment. Not sure if he has the temprament for batting extended periods as can be requried at test level.
Shane Watson
Playing better cricket now that his ex is running aorund with Tom Williams! Needs to concentrate on bowling line and length, too inconsistent an option.
Dominic Thornely
He's a NSW boy and that means he has one hand on a baggy green already. I like t he bloke, even if he is a blood nut. Bats well with a decent technique and bowls in the McGrath kilometre per hour bracket, definate option.
Cameron White
Bats well, bowls leg spinning flat things. Half a sniff, if he has a big summer domestically he'd all but be assured a baggy green
Andrew Symons
His meat pies are easy pickings outside of the one day environment. Not sure if he has the temprament for batting extended periods as can be requried at test level.
Shane Watson
Playing better cricket now that his ex is running aorund with Tom Williams! Needs to concentrate on bowling line and length, too inconsistent an option.
Dominic Thornely
He's a NSW boy and that means he has one hand on a baggy green already. I like t he bloke, even if he is a blood nut. Bats well with a decent technique and bowls in the McGrath kilometre per hour bracket, definate option.
Cameron White
Bats well, bowls leg spinning flat things. Half a sniff, if he has a big summer domestically he'd all but be assured a baggy green
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I'd love to see Watson get a run. A year or two ago I loathed him simply because he was played when he wasn't ready, and was not performing. And he took up Ian Harvey's place in the squad (which was the wrong decision - Harvey should still be in the ODI squad but anyway). But now the time has come. He has been scoring a number of centuries, and his bowling is coming along. We had the chance, and we blew it. Martyn is the guy to go. I am sick of him. Slow paced batsman. Hayden is out of form, too, but I'd have him over Marto. Hussey could even fill his place at number 4. More questions then answers.
Cameron White won't even amount to much. A better batsman then bowler, who doesn't turn the ball enough. Will become another Hauritz. Purely a ODI bowler. Brad Hogg is a better option.
Cameron White won't even amount to much. A better batsman then bowler, who doesn't turn the ball enough. Will become another Hauritz. Purely a ODI bowler. Brad Hogg is a better option.
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Light halts batting
From correspondents in London
September 10, 2005
AUSTRALIA took what appeared to be a calculated risk after accepting an offer of bad light when well set on the second day of the fifth Ashes Test at The Oval overnight.
At stumps Australia, in a match they have to win to level the series at 2-2 and so retain the Ashes they'd held since 1989, were on their tea score of 112 without loss, 261 behind England's below par first innings 373 after no play took place in the final session with 37 overs lost.
Justin Langer, dropped once, was 75 not out and fellow left-handed opener Matthew Hayden 32 not out.
The duo's first three-figure stand of the series was well in excess of their previous best of 58 in the drawn third Test at Old Trafford as they gave England a reminder of Ashes contests past.
But after tea they took the light, which was the sole reason for the players staying off the field for nearly an-hour-and-a-half.
It then started to rain as well and initially this appeared to aid England in their quest to win their first Ashes series since 1986-87.
Langer defended the decision after stumps, telling reporters: "We spoke about it briefly at tea-time. I asked Ricky and Gilly what their thoughts were and they felt it was the same as any other Test match.
"When we walked out to bat it was very dark. Andrew Flintoff was reverse-swinging the ball just before tea and we felt it was best to play him in the best conditions possible," the 34-year-old West Australian added.
"Unfortunately it hung around for the whole session. But at this stage we've only lost half-an-hour, an hour. The way this series has gone most Tests have been decided in four days.
"Take it from me, we were none for a hundred, we'd have loved to keep batting. But, at the end of the day, the reality is when you weigh up the options every time it comes up the question is if you do lose a wicket early, the new batsman has to come in against a reverse swinging ball.
"It was very dark after tea. We've seen Flintoff bowl well in dark conditions against the new batsman."
England left-arm spinner Ashley Giles admitted he'd been taken aback by Australia's move. "We were ready to start and we were a little bit surprised and shocked.
"Of course I hope they live to regret it but there's three days left in this Test match, there's a lot of time. We can't, and Ricky Ponting can't, afford to cloud watch."
After leg-spin great Shane Warne took six for 122 in England's first innings, there was still an opportunity for Australia to build a commanding total that would give their star bowler plenty of runs to play with later in the game.
Australia's best first innings total in the series so far had been the 308 they made in England's two-run second Test win at Edgbaston.
But here they had the laid foundations for a big score on a perfect batting pitch against an attack minus Simon Jones, who'd taken 18 wickets at 21 apiece in the first four Tests of the series.
The Glamorgan quick was missing because of an ankle injury and England, who had called up fast bowler James Anderson into their squad, instead chose all-rounder Paul Collingwood, a medium-pacer, as Jones's replacement.
England had clearly hoped for runs from Collingwood but he scored seven.
Langer was 16 not out and Hayden, who hadn't scored more than 70 in his last 30 Test innings, unbeaten on two, when Australia began after lunch on 19.
With a becalmed Hayden taking 53 balls to get to double figures, it was left to Langer to do the bulk of the scoring in a reversal of their usual roles.
The balance of England's attack placed a heavy responsibility on Giles to ensure England's frontline quicks did not have to carry too heavy a burden.
But Langer, looking to disrupt England's plans, drove Giles's second and fourth balls for six as 14 runs in all came off the bowler's first over.
That over also saw Langer complete a 63-ball fifty with two sixes and six fours.
Giles was immediately replaced by Collingwood, the spinner switching ends.
Collingwood almost proved a partnership breaker when Langer, on 53, tried to cut a ball that was too close to him and Marcus Trescothick, at slip, failed to hold on to a difficult one-handed chance high to his right.
Earlier Warne, the only man to have so far taken 600 wickets and playing his last Test in England, saw his latest haul gave him 34 wickets for the series.
That equalled his best for a Test campaign in England, in the 1993 six-match encounter.
England, who began Friday on 319 for seven, saw their last three wickets add 48 runs but on such a fine surface and fast outfield they would have wanted at least 400.
Agence France-Presse
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,86 ... 61,00.html
From correspondents in London
September 10, 2005
AUSTRALIA took what appeared to be a calculated risk after accepting an offer of bad light when well set on the second day of the fifth Ashes Test at The Oval overnight.
At stumps Australia, in a match they have to win to level the series at 2-2 and so retain the Ashes they'd held since 1989, were on their tea score of 112 without loss, 261 behind England's below par first innings 373 after no play took place in the final session with 37 overs lost.
Justin Langer, dropped once, was 75 not out and fellow left-handed opener Matthew Hayden 32 not out.
The duo's first three-figure stand of the series was well in excess of their previous best of 58 in the drawn third Test at Old Trafford as they gave England a reminder of Ashes contests past.
But after tea they took the light, which was the sole reason for the players staying off the field for nearly an-hour-and-a-half.
It then started to rain as well and initially this appeared to aid England in their quest to win their first Ashes series since 1986-87.
Langer defended the decision after stumps, telling reporters: "We spoke about it briefly at tea-time. I asked Ricky and Gilly what their thoughts were and they felt it was the same as any other Test match.
"When we walked out to bat it was very dark. Andrew Flintoff was reverse-swinging the ball just before tea and we felt it was best to play him in the best conditions possible," the 34-year-old West Australian added.
"Unfortunately it hung around for the whole session. But at this stage we've only lost half-an-hour, an hour. The way this series has gone most Tests have been decided in four days.
"Take it from me, we were none for a hundred, we'd have loved to keep batting. But, at the end of the day, the reality is when you weigh up the options every time it comes up the question is if you do lose a wicket early, the new batsman has to come in against a reverse swinging ball.
"It was very dark after tea. We've seen Flintoff bowl well in dark conditions against the new batsman."
England left-arm spinner Ashley Giles admitted he'd been taken aback by Australia's move. "We were ready to start and we were a little bit surprised and shocked.
"Of course I hope they live to regret it but there's three days left in this Test match, there's a lot of time. We can't, and Ricky Ponting can't, afford to cloud watch."
After leg-spin great Shane Warne took six for 122 in England's first innings, there was still an opportunity for Australia to build a commanding total that would give their star bowler plenty of runs to play with later in the game.
Australia's best first innings total in the series so far had been the 308 they made in England's two-run second Test win at Edgbaston.
But here they had the laid foundations for a big score on a perfect batting pitch against an attack minus Simon Jones, who'd taken 18 wickets at 21 apiece in the first four Tests of the series.
The Glamorgan quick was missing because of an ankle injury and England, who had called up fast bowler James Anderson into their squad, instead chose all-rounder Paul Collingwood, a medium-pacer, as Jones's replacement.
England had clearly hoped for runs from Collingwood but he scored seven.
Langer was 16 not out and Hayden, who hadn't scored more than 70 in his last 30 Test innings, unbeaten on two, when Australia began after lunch on 19.
With a becalmed Hayden taking 53 balls to get to double figures, it was left to Langer to do the bulk of the scoring in a reversal of their usual roles.
The balance of England's attack placed a heavy responsibility on Giles to ensure England's frontline quicks did not have to carry too heavy a burden.
But Langer, looking to disrupt England's plans, drove Giles's second and fourth balls for six as 14 runs in all came off the bowler's first over.
That over also saw Langer complete a 63-ball fifty with two sixes and six fours.
Giles was immediately replaced by Collingwood, the spinner switching ends.
Collingwood almost proved a partnership breaker when Langer, on 53, tried to cut a ball that was too close to him and Marcus Trescothick, at slip, failed to hold on to a difficult one-handed chance high to his right.
Earlier Warne, the only man to have so far taken 600 wickets and playing his last Test in England, saw his latest haul gave him 34 wickets for the series.
That equalled his best for a Test campaign in England, in the 1993 six-match encounter.
England, who began Friday on 319 for seven, saw their last three wickets add 48 runs but on such a fine surface and fast outfield they would have wanted at least 400.
Agence France-Presse
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,86 ... 61,00.html
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