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cfc2009-10-11-12 wrote:Silly headline, Judd will be the greatest footballer to every step on a footy field when all is said and done (bar injury)..!!

I reckon while we're talking silly headlines, the one that declares judd the greatest footballer of all time after 4 years and an A-A Ruckman in every one of them is just as premature.


I personally see no difference between comparing Pendles to Judd as i do comparing Judd to Buckley, or Voss, or Matthews, or Ablett, or Carey, or Rose, or Barrassi, or Bunton.

I mean, ive heard from so many quarters "Judds had the best first 100 games ever"....well Hayden Bunton had 3 brownlows in his first 100 including 2 in his first 2 years, to go with his 3 Sandovers.....Judd has 1.


Spectacular Talent....no doubt.
Best in the competition right now....definitely a persuasive argument.
Will perhaps be the best ever one day....certainly possible the way he has started.

Best ever a;ready after doing for 3 of 4 years what the greats did for 15....i dont think so.
Agree completely. Wish the numbnuts who picked the team of the century thought about that when they named Coleman instead of Coventry at full forward!

Or the Coleman MEDAL instead of the Coventry Medal....its just such a farce its insulting. Coleman MAY have gone onto beat Coventry....but he didnt.

I could have tolerated Lockett at FF, cos at least he was quite likely to beat Coventry, and eventually did. I could have also tolerated a guy like Hudson or whatever who had a higher goal-per-game average....but Coleman is just an Essendon wet-dream selection....there really is no category of assessment that Coleman deserved his spot ahead of Coventry. Boo hoo, majestic career cut down thru injury....big deal, it happens to, quite literally the best of them....i dont see Greening being named in the team of the Century on sympathy and i dare say he would have been better than Coleman, but as with both of them.....WHO KNOWS
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Zakal wrote:
cfc2009-10-11-12 wrote:Silly headline, Judd will be the greatest footballer to every step on a footy field when all is said and done (bar injury)..!!

I reckon while we're talking silly headlines, the one that declares judd the greatest footballer of all time after 4 years and an A-A Ruckman in every one of them is just as premature.


I personally see no difference between comparing Pendles to Judd as i do comparing Judd to Buckley, or Voss, or Matthews, or Ablett, or Carey, or Rose, or Barrassi, or Bunton.

I mean, ive heard from so many quarters "Judds had the best first 100 games ever"....well Hayden Bunton had 3 brownlows in his first 100 including 2 in his first 2 years, to go with his 3 Sandovers.....Judd has 1.


Spectacular Talent....no doubt.
Best in the competition right now....definitely a persuasive argument.
Will perhaps be the best ever one day....certainly possible the way he has started.

Best ever a;ready after doing for 3 of 4 years what the greats did for 15....i dont think so.
I've said before, I think Judd is over rated. He is a very good footballer, but there have been better. Lot's better.

The thing that Judd has over most other players of similar ability is leg speed. He's not a great overhead mark, he's not a particularly penetrating kick, he's tallish for a midfielder (189cm) with a strong body and balance but his leg speed, particularly his ability to accelerate thru stoppages, is what gives him his advantage and gathers the wraps because it looks spectacular.

Take two scenarios.

1 Pendlebury gets the ball in a contested situation near the 50, baulks around a tackler, handpasses to a player in the clear who runs 10 and slots a goal.

2. Judd gets the ball in a contested situation near 50, accelerates thru the congestion with a brief burst of speed and chips a kick to a leading forward who goes back and slots a goal.

Both situations equally effective. Same result for the team, same number of possessions from stoppage to goal, why do commentators get sticky y fronts over Judd and not Pendlebury?? Judd's LOOKS more spectacular.
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Stui, as the ridiculous Judd worshipping goes on, you are the voice of common sense and reason.
"Judd best player ever" Good grief! I could name 100 better players.
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stui magpie wrote:
Zakal wrote:
cfc2009-10-11-12 wrote:Silly headline, Judd will be the greatest footballer to every step on a footy field when all is said and done (bar injury)..!!

I reckon while we're talking silly headlines, the one that declares judd the greatest footballer of all time after 4 years and an A-A Ruckman in every one of them is just as premature.


I personally see no difference between comparing Pendles to Judd as i do comparing Judd to Buckley, or Voss, or Matthews, or Ablett, or Carey, or Rose, or Barrassi, or Bunton.

I mean, ive heard from so many quarters "Judds had the best first 100 games ever"....well Hayden Bunton had 3 brownlows in his first 100 including 2 in his first 2 years, to go with his 3 Sandovers.....Judd has 1.


Spectacular Talent....no doubt.
Best in the competition right now....definitely a persuasive argument.
Will perhaps be the best ever one day....certainly possible the way he has started.

Best ever a;ready after doing for 3 of 4 years what the greats did for 15....i dont think so.
I've said before, I think Judd is over rated. He is a very good footballer, but there have been better. Lot's better.

The thing that Judd has over most other players of similar ability is leg speed. He's not a great overhead mark, he's not a particularly penetrating kick, he's tallish for a midfielder (189cm) with a strong body and balance but his leg speed, particularly his ability to accelerate thru stoppages, is what gives him his advantage and gathers the wraps because it looks spectacular.

Take two scenarios.

1 Pendlebury gets the ball in a contested situation near the 50, baulks around a tackler, handpasses to a player in the clear who runs 10 and slots a goal.

2. Judd gets the ball in a contested situation near 50, accelerates thru the congestion with a brief burst of speed and chips a kick to a leading forward who goes back and slots a goal.

Both situations equally effective. Same result for the team, same number of possessions from stoppage to goal, why do commentators get sticky y fronts over Judd and not Pendlebury?? Judd's LOOKS more spectacular.

Yes, this is exactly what ive been saying regarding leg speed. Its not the be all and end all, its just a different way of accomplishing the same thing. Now commentators think the Judd-style looks better, and it does look great, but i love watching superb examples of skill...like that Buckley handball-clearance he does when he runs full tilt at the ball on the ground in a pack, dives on it, and before he hits the ground, gathers in his hands, and fires a handball out that almost punches a hole in the HB-receivers chest.....THEN takes the hit from the pack, THEN hits the ground.


It is sublime skill-work at its greatest.


As for the Judd-worship...its gotten beyond ridiculous....again let me reiterate i think he is a GREAT player...BUT, you know the adoration has surpassed reasonable levels when he gets praised for doing very ordinary things. In the Geelong game yesterday for instance, he ran toward a pack to receive a handball from a fellow-midfielder (as he often does), upon receiving the ball, he was grabbed from both sides...now he managed to get the ball out....but it wasnt a clean handball...in fact it was barely a handball, and it was pure luck that the ball tumbled thru the air to be grabbed by another Weagle player....the reason you can tell it wasnt under his control was because it tumbled thru the air like an Obree chip-punt...not that spearing trajectory of a well-directed handball.

But oh did that set off Bruce...."wow...how does he do it...amazing"

Big damn deal, praise the guy for running thru three tacklers and kicking a goal from 45 off his non-preferred foot (as he did 2mins later)...but for bumbling a lucky "handpass"...gimme a break. Its almost insulting to Judd, as if he would actually think THAT was one of his finer moments or worthy of teh gushing praise that followed.
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Spot on Zakal.

You also pointed out in an earlier post, he's had access to the All Australian Ruckman for 3 years. The Weagles have developed their game strategies around having Judd and Kerr at stoppages. The way the others sacrifice their game to block for Judd in particular is very disciplined.

I'm not hiliting this point to suggest he isn't a very good player, but to make the point that if he WERE to leave the weagles and go to another club that didn't have a top ruckman or midfielders able to support him, I don't think he would be anywhere near as effective.

Whether Pendlebury ever gets the same accolades from the media as Judd is unlikely and irrelevant. It's not how pretty you look doing the job, it's how well the job is done that matters. I'm happy with how Pendles is progressing so far.
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Judd makes the players around him look good not the other way around hes the best player in the comp by a mile
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Dumb thread title.

Pendles is a 15 game player...enough said. The kid is good, but give him time FFS.
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Collingwood's highly rated development coach Alan Richardson says Pendlebury doesn't have to be told anything twice.

A fortnight ago Richardson took a mid-week training session tutoring the young players about protecting space in marking contests.

Days later Pendlebury was on the last line of defence against Adelaide's Andrew McLeod and pulled off a copy-book spoil executed with that very skill.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 63,00.html

Something to get excited about.
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The Panther I am excited.
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He is out of contract at seasons end.
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So are Dale Thomas and Heath Shaw.But do you honestly think that we are going to get them go anyway?!?!
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Do you honestly think they want to go anywhere?
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nuxta wrote:He is out of contract at seasons end.
magpiesgirl wrote:So are Dale Thomas and Heath Shaw.But do you honestly think that we are going to get them go anyway?!?!
Hopefully the club will get to the whole contract thing sooner rather than later. Don't want any other clubs trying to steal them.
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True, Need to Lock Them Into 3+ Year Deals
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Played ok today, again gets more than enough of the ball.
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