Ben Cousins - He's back (now at Richmond) [Merged Threads]

Post by **BBHS** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:47 pm

Personal issues aside the guy is a absolute champion and on football ability alone I would have him in a second.

tomoleary · Post by **tomoleary** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:02 am

Even if West Coast were interested in trading Cousins they wouldn't wanna give him to Collingwood.

During the discussions surrounding Chris Judd's move. Trevor Nisbet said there's bad blood between West Coast and Collingwood and West Coast really aren't interested in dealing with us.

Judd probably decided to go to Carlton and not Collingwood because he was respecting the wishes of Nisbet and the West Coast Eagles.

I always loved watching Ben Cousins ever since he won the Rising Star in 96...but the only place you'll see Cousins in a Collingwood jumper is in your dreams.

Arges Tuft · Post by **Arges Tuft** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:32 am

tomoleary wrote: During the discussions surrounding Chris Judd's move. Trevor Nisbet said there's bad blood between West Coast and Collingwood and West Coast really aren't interested in dealing with us.

I bet the bad blood would have turned into a 'yes please' had we offered them Pendles and Travis Cloke. Not saying we should have. Just saying WC wouldn't have worried about the bad blood if it suited them.

Arges Tuft · Post by **Arges Tuft** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:33 am

BBHS wrote:Personal issues aside the guy is a absolute champion and on football ability alone I would have him in a second.

I think he'd retire before he ever changed clubs, but i agree - i'd take him in a heartbeat too.

DaVe86 · Post by **DaVe86** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:00 pm

Why is there bad blood between us and west coast??? What has happened apart from us beating them in the prelim.

Stuart Harvey · Post by **Stuart Harvey** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:58 pm

Rumor the Ben Cousins may pull the pin also at Eagles B&F tonight

nulla · Post by **nulla** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:47 pm

WCE have to clean their act up over summer or they will finish up without a sponsor the way they are going.

It would not surprise me to see them trade or delist Cousins.

If he went to another culb and was found to be still up to his old habits then it would not tarnish the image of his new club as much as it would if it happened again to WCE.

didaksrightfoot · Post by **didaksrightfoot** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:01 pm

tomoleary wrote:During the discussions surrounding Chris Judd's move. Trevor Nisbet said there's bad blood between West Coast and Collingwood and West Coast really aren't interested in dealing with us.

Show me where Nisbett suggested there was bad blood?

The reason the Eagles ruled out Collingwood is that we dont have the Draft pieces and were unlikely to trade the calibre of player that they wanted. (which is a pretty fair assessment).

I think its naive to assume that just "bad blood" would rule out a trade if the Pies were able to offer significantly more than Carlton. (And unfortunately, I dont think the Pies were ever going to offer more than what Carlton will give up for Judd).
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On Cousins -
If we are able to get him in the PSD or a very cheap trade (ie. Lonie or Holland) AND his salary is small and with appropriate clauses (ie. Pies can rip up his contract at anytime) - then I say go for it.
The guy has his issues, and theres always a big chance that he wont lost another 6-12 months in the AFL.

I dont have worries about his body that others may have. He broke down at the end of this season just because he had taken so much time away from the game. If he gets a proper preseason under his belt I reckon he's got the fitness to play at least 3-4 more years at a top level.

Oh, and just thought Id add:
I reckon Ben would really hate to see himself in any jumper than the Blue-and-Gold. His whole life he was always going to be an Eagle. If he is not going to be on the Eagles list, you would have to question whether his desire to keep playing footy is enough to outweigh his feelings towards WCE.

Podpicken · Post by **Podpicken** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:58 pm

If one thought the hatred couldn't get any more vitreolic (spelling?) towards Collingwood, then this would be it. Cousins in a Pies jumper, holding aloft the premiership cup. Aint gonna happen though

Post by **think positive** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:27 pm

ill have him!!

the juices are flowing at the thought!
(get your mind out of the gutter!)

he is a star in any team - maybe malthouse can tame him!

plus he would look gorgeous in black & white!!

ozybelle · Post by **ozybelle** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:16 pm

Ben Cousins did not attend the Eagles B&F last night........

nulla · Post by **nulla** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:46 pm

When he came back from his rehab I actually thought he looked fitter than ever before and was not looking forward to him and Judd playing together.

Arges Tuft · Post by **Arges Tuft** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:58 pm

ozybelle wrote:Ben Cousins did not attend the Eagles B&F last night........

...Which he'd decided not to do weeks ago.

ozybelle · Post by **ozybelle** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:28 pm

that's ok, I didn't go on and state a reason I just stated the fact.

didaksrightfoot · Post by **didaksrightfoot** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:15 am

nulla wrote:When he came back from his rehab I actually thought he looked fitter than ever before and was not looking forward to him and Judd playing together.

I dont know about fitter, coz the guy has always been superfit. I just think he was more focused. He wanted the ball every time and was sure as hell gonna do something productive with it each time.

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Ben Cousins - He's back (now at Richmond) [Merged Threads]