Ben Cousins - He's back (now at Richmond) [Merged Threads]

Alec. J. Hidell · Post by **Alec. J. Hidell** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:25 pm

and lower draft picks jack

kambarker · Post by **kambarker** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:43 am

Alec. J. Hidell wrote:and lower draft picks jack

I hope that the red card does mean he is banned..............reading his posts from NY....... they are really making my blood boil!!

jack_spain · Post by **jack_spain** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:09 pm

^ We need to all pull our heads in. I'll say nothing more about this topic. It's just a pity we can't let posts stand or fall on their own terms. We all disagree from time to time - so what. Why fight over it?

DaVe86 · Post by **DaVe86** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:46 am

This is an issue that will split us.

Personally, i cant see what was wrong with recruiting Cousins.

It would not destroy our youth policy. We will still get 5 quality kids in the draft and more rookies. There is only going to be a bunch of recycled players like Charlie Gardiner in the PSD. Cousins will be available at our pick and we are going to overlook him.

I think we need to get 50 games into Stanley as well. But his role will be to replace Burns' absence. In the mean-time, we are still struggling to fill the void left by Buckley, Licca and Clement. A bit of onfield leadership wont go astray.

And Cousins is a leader on field.

Whether it means a premiership, or simply a bit of stability to a young list...its worth it either way.

Considering we have made the finals 3 years straight, and came pretty close last year....it does not seem absurd to recruit a former brownlow medallist and champion of the game to give us a bit more grunt through the middle.

What Collingwood has found out about Cousins im not sure about. But on the surface the decision seemed a no brainer.

I'll support Collingwood obviously no matter what. I just hope this decision wasnt made out of fear of what the media would do if Cousins messed up again...fear of added media publicity or simply because of his age.

I hope that whatever decision was made was done because of information we do not have because we have basically handed a champion player over to St.Kilda for free (the team that knocked us out of the final this year)

They are now stronger, and our list is pretty much unchanged.

Podpicken · Post by **Podpicken** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:59 am

Dave, it's simple. If, and that's a big speculative "if", he is still knocking about with knob-head drug types, or is showing strong signs of being a loose canon, or not impressing the collingwood hierachy the way he needs to be - and all this is "if" - then we do not want him at our club. He is obviously doing something that doesn't sit well at all with the Pies and we have to back our boys' judgment.

DaVe86 · Post by **DaVe86** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:03 am

I do mate. As i said, i hope this decision isnt based on fear of what others may think or will say. God it would've been great seeing him in the black and white next year.

I would've like to see an educated risk taken.

Podpicken · Post by **Podpicken** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:08 am

I hear you, I was bloody excited about the prospect of him coming over too. I have a feeling a lot more will come out in the wash over the coming months re the Cuz which will explain everything. Put it this way, it would want to

spoljar · Post by **spoljar** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:51 am

soriaa wrote:A very reliable source i know says cousins and collingwood have got thier plan ready as soon as he is approved by the AFL all the headlines will start with collingwood so dont listen whats happening now about st kilda cousins will go in the pre season draft and we will pick him up

I take it you have had a few words to say to your source?

John Wren · Post by **John Wren** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:16 am

spoljar wrote:
soriaa wrote:A very reliable source i know says cousins and collingwood have got thier plan ready as soon as he is approved by the AFL all the headlines will start with collingwood so dont listen whats happening now about st kilda cousins will go in the pre season draft and we will pick him up
I take it you have had a few words to say to your source?

will we hear from soriaa again? perhaps s/he has gone to seek out john ralph for advice on handling these types of situations.

King Malta · Post by **King Malta** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:09 pm

we're idiots to not pick him up.

cousins is the best player of the last decade. hands down.

what a damn mistake we're making here

Podpicken · Post by **Podpicken** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:21 am

but not the next decade, King. History pal.

King Malta · Post by **King Malta** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:10 pm

he's still got at least 2-3 great years left in him i reckon.

massive mistake to pass him up.

if we had of at least picked up harris id be feeling a little more confident...but with burns retirement we have a massive void in our midfeild.

cousins would have been more than a luxury...we need another hard midfeilder...and cousins offers all the hardness...with amazing skills too.

MISTAKE!

skaman · Post by **skaman** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:25 am

King Malta, I feel your pain too mate. My gut feeling is that we have made a mistake solely based on a football perspective and agree with everything you say football ability wise. However, I hope more comes out of this decision not to recruit him and that this decision made by the board is fully justified. I hope we are not bitten on the arse by this decision, but as mere supporters we have to have a little faith in the decision makers who know more(hopefully), behind the scenes in this case.

Lazza · Post by **Lazza** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:00 pm

King Malta wrote:he's still got at least 2-3 great years left in him i reckon.

massive mistake to pass him up.

if we had of at least picked up harris id be feeling a little more confident...but with burns retirement we have a massive void in our midfeild.

cousins would have been more than a luxury...we need another hard midfeilder...and cousins offers all the hardness...with amazing skills too.

MISTAKE!

As I have said before, HUGE mistake..............Not only missing out on Cousins but missing out on him solely because he was deemed TOO OLD at 30!! Stuff me......

But I guess the Lexus caravan will move on to it's next monumental recruiting disaster leaving us dogs barking in it's wake.....

Podpicken · Post by **Podpicken** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:03 pm

love how all these people are flying off the handle talking "huge mistake" when they wouldn't really know jack-shit about why the club has made the decision. Do you really believe the hierachy would be sitting back saying "oh yes, he's a fantastic, elite footballer but we'll pass on him just to shit our supporters"??

Something's up and they have obviously deemed it a big enough reason to pass on who is no doubt a gun footballer, but an extremely troubled one. The "lexus caravan" has recruited better than any other club in recent times, Lazza.

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