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For fu@k sake me and CQ will be captain ok! nah we will find out but if there is any truth to this Bucks thing coz we find out everything round the place!
Hey NT Pie don't u go bringing Ricky into this! and as for Mal well look how every1 has turned on him now>>>I reckon he was definately in our top 5 players and him being back in the side could have stopped our slip back down to the bottom!
What about Freeborn being captain he seems pretty responsible to me and is a bloody good player?!? I guess he hasnt been playing with our club for long enough but. If u think about it once u take Bucks outta it there are a lot of guys who could be good captains. Why don't we just have a joint one like Saints did with Loewie and Burkie! Speaking of Saints MAGPIE MANIAC - Stan Alves went sick at Max and look where that got him.....SACKED straight away coz the players could no longer relate to what he was on about and all turned on him!
one of my very best friends plays for the crows (simon goodwin) and he told me that nathan buckley is a top bloke, in fact, he said that nathan was one of the most friendly blokes at the all australian awards night.
as many players were committed to finals action at that stage only a few of them could celebrate (hit the piss) and simon told me that the whole bar bill (about 15 players and partners) was payed for by Bucks. simon also said that he thinks pies players use nathans presence as a cop out to relax. he said that bucks could come to the crows, scream his head off at players, and they wouldn't whinge. the crows respect nathan highly!!!!!!!
sure he demands excellence - but he isnt a wanker - and if an elite footballer cant take criticism from a player of buckleys ilk then he should piss off to the amateur league and play for 100 bucks a game.
these players are payed to perform. bucks does his bit!
Boomer couldnt agee more with your comments. Al alternative, yes Burns may be ok or Richo short term...Player are hiding behind Bucks' ability. If Buckley would have gone to Essendon he could have put a wooden spoon in everyone else locker...How about paying the man some repsect for the loyalty he has shown our shitful club since he has been there. People are willing to forgive Mal Michael and the spoilt boy Chrissy Tarrant...Another fine example of us aussies and the "tall poppy syndrome" If he needs to change his ways he will and Malty wont tolerate anything else...I am also sure if they would say to Bucks resign your captaincy for a season he would do that but than it maybe bye bye Magpies.
Fellow pies dont come on here and bag me about this
i love bucks as a player he is a champ.
But im wise enough to know the importance of team harmony
im afraid to say only bum teams and clubs have these problems.
Have we become the new st kilda of old!!!!
I want collingwood to be an awesome power again but im afraid people im very afraid that if this problem is not fixed quickly
we have a new home and we are allready getting used to it
Why don't they just change captains every year or every week for that matter Eddie seems to be the real captain down there anyway although i dunno what good he has really done except bring us supporters a little hope!
Yep Joffa, Pies r like St.Kilda or even worse they lose as much as i rememeber Fitroy doing. Oh well we still love the Pies for some strange reason!
I do not think that the coach has a carte blanche to give his players a spray. A spray should be used as a surprise weapon, to get a reaction out of the player(s). I can not see it of much use in a young team.
Spidergirl, can you give some more info on the spray Stan gave to one of his players (was it Max H. the guy who cried when they lost?, wow no wonder Stan got sacked, I wonder what would happen to MM if he starting giving Josh and R Shaw huge sprays?). I sort of remember the story, but not any of the details.
I have been so frustrated at my team over the last couple of years (as we all have) that I have been tempted to give them a spray myself (instead I just hang my head in my hands). Nearly all of us are giving them sprays on this BB. [WARNING! Rhetorical question approaching] Why should Nathan be any different? Well, because he is the captain, and all his actions should be directed at getting the most out of his players. I am of the opinion that sprays are not overly helpful with young sides, probably not a lot of help to older sides either.
In the end I just want Nathan to aid in the development of the good young players, whether it be as captain or not. But I do not favour getting rid of him, as Burns aside, there is no alternatives.
Richo is disqualified because he was not even an automatic selection at the start of the year. I admit he is now, but as little as a year ago, he was playing in the two's and spending a lot of time on the bench of the firsts.
well i think i do have something to say actually. buckley is obviously staying at collingwood for a reason he does want to make it a sucessful club and well he may or may not be going the right way about it but he is probably TRYING to go the right way about it, i dont think he TRIES to be a prick or whatever joffa and whoever else thinks. and thats about all i have to say.
hey shut up Joffa i type 2 fast ok ---> FitZZZZZZZZZZZroy! there hope thats better on the old eyes !
Yeah Greg J it was Maxie boy who Stan was giving a spray too. All i remember was at one of the breaks he specifically targeted Max and was really getting stuck into him about something. Then after that a big thing was made out of it in the media and i got the feeling that the players had a vote or something and voted Stan out. I think Alves was told he would have to leave if he didn't get them into the finals that year anyway. I thought he was a really good coach one of the best around at that time but can understand that if the players have no respect for him and can no longer relate to him then its best to leave.
ah beautiful conclusion there CQ now heres mine : With Bucks we are Fu@ked with him and Fu@ked without him!
If nathan buckley was so concerned about his behaviour and how it was affecting the team - he would either leave (by the way the rumour about him wanting to go to the dons is ludicrous) or pull his head in. he would not carry on like an idiot, and malthouse wouldn't let him. he is NOT at fault.
in fact - to remove him from the captaincy would be nothing short of insane. firstly, it would create an impression of failure, of nathan and the CFC. secondly, can you imagine the pressure on the incoming captain?
nathan buckley is an inspired, inspiring leader. like all good leaders, those that play under him are often spiteful, jealous and therefore detrimental to the team. people like that very rarely see the distance. they fall by the wayside, caught up in an emotional, psychological trap - not being as good as they thought! people like that have usually dominated every form of their life (junior sport etc)and when challenged by a superior level...fail.
unfortunately, we have too many of these types at CFC. types that are told they are great - without earning the tag. so lets get off the back of the one player who has earnt the 'tag' of greatness.
give me a team of so called 'arrogant, anti-social players'(re: john mcenroe, dallas cowboys, chicago bulls, etc) that win - not a team of socially correct wusses that cry when they cant be the one blowing out the candles on the cake.
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