Hear ye ... Hear ye
Be listening to radio 3CR (855 on the AM dial) next Wednesday, 3rd January, from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m.
I'll be filling in on a program called "City Limits". and I'll be discussing ... among other things ... the proposed redevelopment of the M.C.G.
And I'll be interviewing a special mystery guest known and loved by us all.
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Alf on 3CR ... Wed. 9-10am with mystery guest
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AlfAndrews
Mags, it's not really a talk-back show. My special "mystery guest" interview was done by phone ... but it was pre-recorded. I'm not really encouraging callers because I'm not trained in doing talk-back. It can be a bit tricky. Maybe when I'm more experienced.
Set your alarm, though, Mags. I think you'll like the show.
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Set your alarm, though, Mags. I think you'll like the show.
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magpie24
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Yeah Alf i listened to the show i thought it was a very good informative show. The special guest was very apporiate for the subject,but i cant see anything changing unless all supporters together say %$^ it and dont go to the footy for 1 week.
I couldnt imagine that happening????
Otherwise well done Alf and Joffa
I couldnt imagine that happening????
Otherwise well done Alf and Joffa
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ed healey
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ed healey
Thanx Alf,where did Joffa get a word in amongst that spiel,was it a 3 hour show?
May I pass a few comments regarding the issue.
I was at the 1970 grand Final,and watched from the standing room behind the seats at bay 13 on the wing.
As we(my father and 4 mates of his and me)did every week,the footy included standing,and we new nothing better,nor desired it.
It was a tradition.
Sadly I have not been to the MCG since 1974,so I cant comment on how it looks now except for what you see on TV.
The WACA ground once held 35000 before they ripped up the grass and filled the area with concrete.
I was one of the crowd when it was a lock out when the windies played aust in a one day game 35000 official,but many more unofficial,the atmosphere that day cannot be repeated in a concrete jungle,where everyone has a seat.
Subiaco Oval is another point where they could get 6000 more into a game before they filled the grass with seats and corporate boxes.
I see in the future no need for huge stadiums,as the TV coverage will be so good that most people will not bother with the $100 a seat for being there live.
The stadiums of the future will have less seating and more corporate areas,as the normal person is priced out of being at an event and TV will be the only avenue for more and more people
and then unfortunately they will try to put the price of pay tv out of our range too.
To spend half a billion for a stadium that already has the capacity to cater for most wishes and indeed is only full about 8 times a year,is madness,and my father who has been awaiting a hip operation for 6 years now would like to see the govt cut the hospital wait list rather than cater for the cravat set as you put it.
But then whats half a billion in an ideal world where there is no unemployment,sickness or crime,drug abuse etc.
May I pass a few comments regarding the issue.
I was at the 1970 grand Final,and watched from the standing room behind the seats at bay 13 on the wing.
As we(my father and 4 mates of his and me)did every week,the footy included standing,and we new nothing better,nor desired it.
It was a tradition.
Sadly I have not been to the MCG since 1974,so I cant comment on how it looks now except for what you see on TV.
The WACA ground once held 35000 before they ripped up the grass and filled the area with concrete.
I was one of the crowd when it was a lock out when the windies played aust in a one day game 35000 official,but many more unofficial,the atmosphere that day cannot be repeated in a concrete jungle,where everyone has a seat.
Subiaco Oval is another point where they could get 6000 more into a game before they filled the grass with seats and corporate boxes.
I see in the future no need for huge stadiums,as the TV coverage will be so good that most people will not bother with the $100 a seat for being there live.
The stadiums of the future will have less seating and more corporate areas,as the normal person is priced out of being at an event and TV will be the only avenue for more and more people
and then unfortunately they will try to put the price of pay tv out of our range too.
To spend half a billion for a stadium that already has the capacity to cater for most wishes and indeed is only full about 8 times a year,is madness,and my father who has been awaiting a hip operation for 6 years now would like to see the govt cut the hospital wait list rather than cater for the cravat set as you put it.
But then whats half a billion in an ideal world where there is no unemployment,sickness or crime,drug abuse etc.
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I got to admit that I answered there online questionaire and it was apparent that I wanted a roomier stadium with more social facilities (not recreational). Mind you the questionaire has been accused of being biased in the way that it was formatted, I think most people would not have realised that their answers would end up with the long room being scrapped.
Mind you I answered the questionaire with becoming a Collingwood social club member in mind, the additional social facilities I indicated I was thinking of, was in fact a permanent Collingwood Social club.
My MCC membership could be up in about 5 years, might even get bought forward with the redevelopment, then which one will I join?
Which brings me onto my point. The MCG can not remain the same forever, look what has happened to Vic Park. I am not saying the proposed plans are appropriate, only that eventually something will have to be done.
And, why is Joffa sticking up for the Long Room? Why, are you Alf? The MCC committee is one of the most sought after symbols of the Melbourne establishment. What do we care if their precious Long Room is pulled down. They go into hysterics in there, if anyone wanders in with a pair of jeans on (even if they have a jacket and a collar and tie). The dress code nazi's are not nice people, and seem to resent anyone they do not instantly recogonise, as an interloper. It is not as if these poor buggers will not build a bigger and better and more luxurious long room for themselves. It's not as if most of us were regular attendee's in there?
I am more pissed off at road tolls.
I am more worried about pay TV reducing the number of people attending games. I am worried that I will subscribe and take the easy way out and watch the games at home. How much will my club get off the cable co., the $170 or so I paid for my membership last year, or the $220 or so I am going to pay this year, or some pissy little dividend after the AFL pays for its operating costs and its contractual payouts to its mates (and their related companies).
While we make the most of the MCG, it does not belong to football. Maybe thats the problem, why have people running that stadium so they can pack it out on Boxing Day, and three international one dayer's a year. Collingwood packed it out more than that this year and we came second last. Maybe we should take over the running off the stadium and rename it the New Jock McHale Stadium?
Mind you I answered the questionaire with becoming a Collingwood social club member in mind, the additional social facilities I indicated I was thinking of, was in fact a permanent Collingwood Social club.
My MCC membership could be up in about 5 years, might even get bought forward with the redevelopment, then which one will I join?
Which brings me onto my point. The MCG can not remain the same forever, look what has happened to Vic Park. I am not saying the proposed plans are appropriate, only that eventually something will have to be done.
And, why is Joffa sticking up for the Long Room? Why, are you Alf? The MCC committee is one of the most sought after symbols of the Melbourne establishment. What do we care if their precious Long Room is pulled down. They go into hysterics in there, if anyone wanders in with a pair of jeans on (even if they have a jacket and a collar and tie). The dress code nazi's are not nice people, and seem to resent anyone they do not instantly recogonise, as an interloper. It is not as if these poor buggers will not build a bigger and better and more luxurious long room for themselves. It's not as if most of us were regular attendee's in there?
I am more pissed off at road tolls.
I am more worried about pay TV reducing the number of people attending games. I am worried that I will subscribe and take the easy way out and watch the games at home. How much will my club get off the cable co., the $170 or so I paid for my membership last year, or the $220 or so I am going to pay this year, or some pissy little dividend after the AFL pays for its operating costs and its contractual payouts to its mates (and their related companies).
While we make the most of the MCG, it does not belong to football. Maybe thats the problem, why have people running that stadium so they can pack it out on Boxing Day, and three international one dayer's a year. Collingwood packed it out more than that this year and we came second last. Maybe we should take over the running off the stadium and rename it the New Jock McHale Stadium?
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Greg
Let me make clear a few points.
I am against class segregation i hate it like poison,i have no problems with people who are wealthy but i certainly have a problem with those wealthy people who blatantly flaunt it at the expense of the poor,i say to those who do this' a real nice hot place awaits you on your departure from this life'.
On to the MCC members stand,note the word STAND i couldnt give a rats arse about its members.Im tired of the money hungry yuppies who wouldnt know the meaning of the words'values'and 'tradition'
All they see is that mighty dollar they have no respect for our past,why do we have to americanise everything,Our football game'aussie rules'is uniquely australian lets keep it that way,we have footy ovals not ball parks.By pulling down our past
such as the mcc members STAND shows us to be uncaring and cold,i believe its historically important to keep such treasures.
I dont give a shit for modern day architecture of concrete and plastic glass,for gods sake have a good look at that shithole colonial stadium.I believe its a good thing to stay in touch and keep our beloved past,how can we move into the future with no trace of the past.The real truth with the MCG redevelopment is an excuse by the rich to look after the rich.And that is what this crazy farked up world is about.My heart goes back to a past when football'the peoples game'belonged to all people regardless
of wealth.I cry for a time gone by.
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Shite,Shite, Bloody Shite!! Here Comes Collingwood To Kick Your Arse Forever Black And White!!...SHITE...
Let me make clear a few points.
I am against class segregation i hate it like poison,i have no problems with people who are wealthy but i certainly have a problem with those wealthy people who blatantly flaunt it at the expense of the poor,i say to those who do this' a real nice hot place awaits you on your departure from this life'.
On to the MCC members stand,note the word STAND i couldnt give a rats arse about its members.Im tired of the money hungry yuppies who wouldnt know the meaning of the words'values'and 'tradition'
All they see is that mighty dollar they have no respect for our past,why do we have to americanise everything,Our football game'aussie rules'is uniquely australian lets keep it that way,we have footy ovals not ball parks.By pulling down our past
such as the mcc members STAND shows us to be uncaring and cold,i believe its historically important to keep such treasures.
I dont give a shit for modern day architecture of concrete and plastic glass,for gods sake have a good look at that shithole colonial stadium.I believe its a good thing to stay in touch and keep our beloved past,how can we move into the future with no trace of the past.The real truth with the MCG redevelopment is an excuse by the rich to look after the rich.And that is what this crazy farked up world is about.My heart goes back to a past when football'the peoples game'belonged to all people regardless
of wealth.I cry for a time gone by.
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Shite,Shite, Bloody Shite!! Here Comes Collingwood To Kick Your Arse Forever Black And White!!...SHITE...
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AlfAndrews
Ed,
I just had a peek at your profile. As a professional "C.U.B. stubby tester" you would have found the standing room on Grand Final day a little "inconvenient" I would imagine. I hope you weren't one of those people who used to relieve themselves on the spot!!!
But seriously, your vision of where footy is heading is absolutely spot-on. All-corporate stadiums ... hideously expensive seating ... and the plebs forced to watch on TV ... And the cruellest rub of them all ... when the plebs get charged big bucks just to watch on pay TV.
The Game's losing me ... bit by bit ... it's losing me. Or I'm losing the Game ... One or the other ... or both.
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I just had a peek at your profile. As a professional "C.U.B. stubby tester" you would have found the standing room on Grand Final day a little "inconvenient" I would imagine. I hope you weren't one of those people who used to relieve themselves on the spot!!!
But seriously, your vision of where footy is heading is absolutely spot-on. All-corporate stadiums ... hideously expensive seating ... and the plebs forced to watch on TV ... And the cruellest rub of them all ... when the plebs get charged big bucks just to watch on pay TV.
The Game's losing me ... bit by bit ... it's losing me. Or I'm losing the Game ... One or the other ... or both.
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AlfAndrews
Greg
Perhaps the Long Room and pavilion should remain as a monument to class warfare. It is a huge part of Melbourne's history. You might as well say let's knock down the remains of the Colliseum because it was a bad place where Christians got fed to lions.
I know the most constant thing in the world is change ... but there's just NO NEED and NO BENEFIT to be had from destroying half the ground at this point in time.
If it meant that we would be able to fit another 50,000 people into the Grand Final I'd be all for it. But there's going to be no increase in capacity. This is just change for its own sake. And a change which will impact heavily against the non-corporate footy fan.
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Perhaps the Long Room and pavilion should remain as a monument to class warfare. It is a huge part of Melbourne's history. You might as well say let's knock down the remains of the Colliseum because it was a bad place where Christians got fed to lions.
I know the most constant thing in the world is change ... but there's just NO NEED and NO BENEFIT to be had from destroying half the ground at this point in time.
If it meant that we would be able to fit another 50,000 people into the Grand Final I'd be all for it. But there's going to be no increase in capacity. This is just change for its own sake. And a change which will impact heavily against the non-corporate footy fan.
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ed healey
Alf honestly I never saw anyone do that,and I saw every game the pies played from 61-74.
It was quite amazing when you look back on it.
The crowd packed in like sardines in the standing room would always let you move out and then back in again when you went to buy drinks or go to the loo whatever.
It was part of being at the footy.
And the CUB job is not professional Alf,its an honorary position.
Im actually a locomotive driver and have been for 24 years.
gopies
It was quite amazing when you look back on it.
The crowd packed in like sardines in the standing room would always let you move out and then back in again when you went to buy drinks or go to the loo whatever.
It was part of being at the footy.
And the CUB job is not professional Alf,its an honorary position.
Im actually a locomotive driver and have been for 24 years.
gopies
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