we led 28-26 at HT so our tackle rate didnt drop off, cats just stepped it up.92Magarey wrote:Is that right? Maybe not as good a match as I thought?Cam wrote:Tackles Geelong 65 - 52 Collingwood
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yes An inkling probably i am a little harsh on Brown!AN_Inkling wrote:What the hell is this rubbish about Brown? Did very little wrong tonight, and only had one goal kicked on him. Certainly not the mistakes of some others in our defense. Was very good, overall better than Reid.
Leon wasn't great, but not too far from it.
O'Bree was poor, no question. Wouldn't have played if Medhurst was fit.
Wood was terrible, and was a bad selection choice - should have gone with L.Brown.
we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest.
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ThePieMind wrote:Absolutely right - Leon is down on confidence as his attempt to pass the ball from inside 50 in the 2nd QTR showed. But I have to admitt there is no zip, zest or spark in him at present - just hope the flame is still flickering, and not burnt out.AN_Inkling wrote:Not a disaster tonight by any means. If we'd kicked three goals in the last I'd have been happy with the game. Going goalless again was a disappointment, especially as we dominated early. Still early in the season, and we've still got a few choices to make on our best 22.
Those saying Leon is finished? Sorry, way off. He's a little out of touch at the moment, but still definitely dangerous. Not as if we have a surfeit of skilled, quick, players. Wasn't much space up forward tonight with the way we moved it in.
Then drop him to the VFL and let him find it
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Good to see the usual Eddieland suspects out to defend one of their little favourites.ThePieMind wrote:Absolutely right - Leon is down on confidence as his attempt to pass the ball from inside 50 in the 2nd QTR showed. But I have to admitt there is no zip, zest or spark in him at present - just hope the flame is still flickering, and not burnt out.AN_Inkling wrote:Not a disaster tonight by any means. If we'd kicked three goals in the last I'd have been happy with the game. Going goalless again was a disappointment, especially as we dominated early. Still early in the season, and we've still got a few choices to make on our best 22.
Those saying Leon is finished? Sorry, way off. He's a little out of touch at the moment, but still definitely dangerous. Not as if we have a surfeit of skilled, quick, players. Wasn't much space up forward tonight with the way we moved it in.
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Ben Reid a huge positive - especially in the 1st half.Piesnchess wrote:Aside from young Beams, i cannot think of one single positive for the Pies tonight. And our dear ol boundary line game style reared its head again, i thought we had got over that crap,notice the cats went up the guts all the way. The lid is firmly down now, the press will give us merry hell,-we deserve it-and its back to one week at a time. Just so long as we learn from this debacle, and act on it strongly. Next week now beckons, we must hit back hard.
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I think the team selections are getting better....still a few tweaks to go...i think we'll play better with Presti and Reid as the back two bigs (no disrespect to Brown, but it's just one of those team balance things). Similarly, O'bree comes out in favour of Medhurst and Wood for Fraser and I think we can take our game to another level.
After Dick's had a few VFL games throw him in for Davis (who gets a rest until later in the season) and throw in Barham now and again to rest some players and we can still keep building momentum towards september.
After Dick's had a few VFL games throw him in for Davis (who gets a rest until later in the season) and throw in Barham now and again to rest some players and we can still keep building momentum towards september.
May the force be with us
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Just realistic Jack. I didn't expect a win. Thought the Cats would be about 4 goals better than us tonight... so was a little disappointed with the finish, but certainly not surprised.
Our team is still improving. Quite simply, we're not as good as the Cats. Maybe we will be by the end of the year, who knows. We do have more improvement in us than they do. I didn't rate us as a massive flag chance this year, because the Cats are too good, and my view hasn't changed. Next year could be the year. Still a chance this season, but not an absolute red hot chance.
Is Leon part of our best 22? Definitely. Unless Dick comes on really well, and Medhurst is in form.
Is O'Bree? No. Ball's taken his spot.
Is Wood? No. Should not play second ruck, especially against a non ruckman.
Is N.Brown good enough? Certainly. And played very well tonight. Presti is still our best stopper though, and may be preferred.
Keep your chin up Jack. It's only one game. The season's not over yet.
Our team is still improving. Quite simply, we're not as good as the Cats. Maybe we will be by the end of the year, who knows. We do have more improvement in us than they do. I didn't rate us as a massive flag chance this year, because the Cats are too good, and my view hasn't changed. Next year could be the year. Still a chance this season, but not an absolute red hot chance.
Is Leon part of our best 22? Definitely. Unless Dick comes on really well, and Medhurst is in form.
Is O'Bree? No. Ball's taken his spot.
Is Wood? No. Should not play second ruck, especially against a non ruckman.
Is N.Brown good enough? Certainly. And played very well tonight. Presti is still our best stopper though, and may be preferred.
Keep your chin up Jack. It's only one game. The season's not over yet.
Well done boys!
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Just a minor update with your OUT list.jack_spain wrote:I agree with ALL those changes Tannin.Tannin wrote:Five changes in one week is too many, but these are the ones to consider.
IN:
Medhurst
Lockyer
Fraser
Barham
Prestigiacomo
OUT:
Davis
Macaffer
Wood
O'Bree
Brown
Pick any three.
Davis (should read) OUT from Rd 10 to Rd 22.
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very harsh, leons been down lately but we know how good he can be, he'll be alright, im more livid with macaffa, he isnt a fwd, cant kick for starters, he wont be playing next week IMO.Monco Matt wrote:I'm done holding on to hope for Leon. If he cannot show something in a game like this then he isn't worth the paper at the bottom of my dunny bowl. I'm over this guy, just f*ck off already.
Obviously a disappointment, but like the Saints game, we had our chances but couldn't finish. We dominated play in the first ten minutes of the last quarter, with the game played almost exclusively in our forward line, but couldn't kick a goal.
We can definitely improve by September. For now we must start by dropping McCaffer and Leon. The Caff's shocking misses from gettable shots in the last quarter broke our spirit. It is unforgivable to have a league player who can't kick for goal. I've seen him do this on numerous occasions, where he shits himself at important moments. Not good enough. As for Leon, he is simply not working hard enough.
The other liability tonight was clearly Woods. I'm not sure if Josh's knee is good enough for him to keep playing AFL, but if not then perhaps bring in Leroy instead. Wood is still a year or two off being a decent player imo.
As for the coaching staff, we need to work out how to overcome the flooding of our forward line - which is what beat us in this game and the one against the Saints.
We can definitely improve by September. For now we must start by dropping McCaffer and Leon. The Caff's shocking misses from gettable shots in the last quarter broke our spirit. It is unforgivable to have a league player who can't kick for goal. I've seen him do this on numerous occasions, where he shits himself at important moments. Not good enough. As for Leon, he is simply not working hard enough.
The other liability tonight was clearly Woods. I'm not sure if Josh's knee is good enough for him to keep playing AFL, but if not then perhaps bring in Leroy instead. Wood is still a year or two off being a decent player imo.
As for the coaching staff, we need to work out how to overcome the flooding of our forward line - which is what beat us in this game and the one against the Saints.