Post Match. Pies tie with Dees - all comments

[3.14159]

Collingwood, what's the point?

witch one? there are 22 to choose from!
Yikes!

[choppa]

just wante to say Dale Thomas is the toughest guy in our team. he goes so hard at the ball great efforts by him today especially the one where it was in the middle of the ground and it resulted in a goal

[3.14159]

I've read a number of posts, to say the least, that have expressed dismay at the Collingwood players tackling inefficiency.

An easy solution to this would be to hire a Rugby League or Union tackling coach. If they can't teach the players how to tackle properly then no one can.

I would love to see the Pies hire Lloyd as our full time goal kicking coach and forward line assistant coach and make contact with the Melbourne Storm about using their tackling coach in a part-time role as, funnily enough, our tackling coach.

On the game - we managed a draw and got two points.

I'd be happy for the Storm to teach our players how to kick!
What the Team NEEDS to do is find a way to beat the flood. All our losses (and 2daze draw) have been to Teams that have flooded our forward-line!

[Didaksgoal]

I don't care who coaches us next to be honest. I just don't want the same tripe year after year.

+1

It's not about "what makes you think Bucks will be saviour?". It's about trying something new and different..........because the old ain't working, and the same repeat, after repeat, after repeat, after repeat, after repeat happens every year. Same mystifying form slumps, same result.

We will not go anywhere with this horrible zone/guard space/non accountable way we play. Yes, it win win some games, but it won't win us what we are after. It's way too hard on the players. It means they chase, and chase, and chase.

The zone we employ is a gamble that the other team stuffs up their use of the ball, if they don't, they can go from one end of the ground to the other in no time, with no pressure.............and it's pathetic. Look at most of their (demons) goals, it looked like normal football. We have to work so hard or get lucky to get ours. Why? Our plans and set ups are wrong. They were right for a handful of games this year, but hell knows why we've changed........But that's the Collingwood of the last 5 years or so (malthouse).

We looked lost out there today, no one would take responsibility (apart from a few). We are a soft team at-the-moment. How many time can our players over run a ball or miss a tackle, sheeeeeesh!

They seem to not be able to think for themselves when the heat is on. Also, the leadership group needs some grunt and mongrel. It's time someone other than Swanny lead the way. Watch the way he plays, he keeps his feet, cops the knocks, and gets on with business, and delivers, time and time again. Swanny take a bow!

Collingwood, you either want it, or you don't.


If Mick is right that we don't have the "cattle", then Buck's is pushing sh!t up hill with an icypole stick.


Go the Pies

[Cakewalk]

Thomas , Swan , Dick good. Pendles , Sidebottom , Reid , O'Brien OK.
Nearly everyone else shithouse. Fraser is just a sad sight , I can't work out how he doesn't get embarrassed watching himself on replay. How people continually fall for L.Brown, and actually want to engage in a dialogue about selecting him ahead of Dawes or even Anthony has got me absolutely $@&^#. Maybe some have been experienced a minset for so long that they have been Malthoused.

[kickit2me]

A unique stat that was mentioned a few weeks ago by a talk-back caller was that in the 80 odd games played since Round 1 2007 only 3 teams have won the week after playing the Western Bulldogs.

[mel_kay39]

We had 10 more scoring shots. We won the clearances, tackles & inside 50's. Yet we still couldn't win.

The forward line was a disgrace (apart from Dick), after a promising start.

I thought the backline stood up prett well, all things considered. And the midfield, other than Jolly & Fraser, were OK. Thought Swan & Pendles were very good.

Time for Leroy to go. I would rather be pumping games into Dawes. Geelong will win the flag by a mile anyway, so we may as well play these blokes, like Dawes JA & Wood (yes Wood - I'd rather him than Fraser now).

I don't know why people pick on Leroy so much - yes, he didn't kick a goal but he was the one whose tackle stopped the Melbourne bloke (can't remember his name) in the dying minutes and he does take it up to players and do his bit. I don't know why Dawes wasn't played but I would have played both. As for Jolly, he did more than Fraser today, which isn't saying much. I'd definitely drop Fraser for Wood, and bring in Goldsack if Maxwell isn't right after the break. Leon needs another spot in the 2's as well.

[Melsa5]

Our B class got found out today...they are hitting a wall big time.

No doubt we would have won with Dids and Bally in the side.

We havent found our team balance for weeks now. We also havent played 4 quarters all year.

I dont mind these sort of games if we keep on tweaking the side and finding the correct balance.

At the moment, the McCaffer, Brown are not in the balance.

You cant play Sidey and Beamsy both in the middle at the same time...wrong balance.

We need to so find a balance in the forward line and desperately. Can we keep Cloke or Dawes in the forward square for one game, just one game and see what happens.

Hopefully we take a lot from this game and try and tweak the bloody balance!

[Doc63]

We had 10 more scoring shots. We won the clearances, tackles & inside 50's. Yet we still couldn't win.

The forward line was a disgrace (apart from Dick), after a promising start.

I thought the backline stood up prett well, all things considered. And the midfield, other than Jolly & Fraser, were OK. Thought Swan & Pendles were very good.

Time for Leroy to go. I would rather be pumping games into Dawes. Geelong will win the flag by a mile anyway, so we may as well play these blokes, like Dawes JA & Wood (yes Wood - I'd rather him than Fraser now).

I don't know why people pick on Leroy so much - yes, he didn't kick a goal but he was the one whose tackle stopped the Melbourne bloke (can't remember his name) in the dying minutes and he does take it up to players and do his bit. I don't know why Dawes wasn't played but I would have played both. As for Jolly, he did more than Fraser today, which isn't saying much. I'd definitely drop Fraser for Wood, and bring in Goldsack if Maxwell isn't right after the break. Leon needs another spot in the 2's as well.

Because he's not the future. What we've seen is so far is the best he'll ever be. He wont take us to where we want to be.
We are wasting time by playing Dawes in the seconds. Of course he's going to have games where he hardly touches it, that part of learning to play senior footy.

[Didaksgoal]

No more excuses

and no more altitude training in Arizona. I have an idea.

Save the cost of going to Arizona and pass that on with reduced membership prices for us.

Then, have the players pick up a football and practice kicking for goal, and kicking to a leading forward.

I agree .. both times.
Kicking for goal, basic skills - tackles that hold. This is stuff you don't need to spend $$$ on .... the modern game with guru's and fitness scientists to match every player on the pitch (the same twits who had both Pedders and Jolly off for the most vital 2.5 minutes of the game I moght add) - yet all we need is to stay back after school and kick a few hundred balls every day for a month.

They are twits for every team. I noticed at some critical times the Melbourne fitness staff had Jamar off as well. The most moronic thing of all is when a player kicks a goal and runs straight off. Whatever happened to momentum? In basketball you keep the hot players on.

Time to send ALL these fitness hacks packing back to the Olympics where they belong. I want footballers (like our living legend Dane Swan), not players who can run like the wind but can't kick to save their life (Action Jaxson).

F*** off fitness staff. Geelong turned their fortunes around when Bomber Thompson decided to sack his entire fitness crew at the start of 2006. If these idiots had their way Geelong wouldn't have picked up Jpod. They've have deemed him too old and incapable of good Beep test scores.

I hate fitness gurus. This is football not athletics!

We've needed to change our fitness staff for a long time, I was thinking this a few years ago. We still see the same results. Why do so many fall in a heap at the same time every year? Or have a patch of brilliance, then patches of rubbish....year after year, after year, after year, after year, after year, after year?

A different approach is needed at Collingwood.


Go the Pies

[fence-banger]

We showed glimpses of good form

[think positive]

what happen to the smash and burn tackling from the first game??

where was the desperate 2nd efforts?? the kids need a rest?? playing tired, timid and sore by the looks

Not leons fault, check the delivery.

Tarks great to have you back - great GOAL!!!!!

Dane Swan - YOU ARE THE MAN!!

Dale Thomas - pure heart, never quits - as for the error someone mentioned - at least he was on the ball giving it a shot

Pendles - getting back to his best

Ball - god we missed you, and thank god (or eddie) we got you

Dids - your knockers are blushing -how we needed your heroics!! even 1 or 2 in the game would have changed it all - its what he brings to the team - belief, guts, cheek and effort

Frazer - still trying but the years as the uno ruck have killed your body.

Brad Dick - cant wait til he grows up, hes gunna be great

2 is better than 0 - ask the socceroos!! - should have slept in!!

[watt price tully]

Geez, we can't carry that many passengers over the course of a season, that's for sure. Great to see Brad Dick back. A bit of class and passion goes a long way. Still a very unsettled side. Lucky to share the points and limp to the break.

What gives you the right to be reasonable & balanced in your reaction to the game today? What, no blaming Malthouse, Eddie, Bucks, Fraser, Leon, McCaffer? Coor blimey!

Thank the god of your choice for Toovey!!

We played poorly in the main & eked out a draw. They played well & got a draw. No Maxwell after less than 10 min into the second quarter. We were running up & down on the spot for a fair bit of the last qtr.

Great pressure goal by Tarkyn who seemd to be well off his best today. What has happended to Wellingham since returning from injury?

Fraser in the crunch was just not concentrating when it counted - that is poor for a big man. Jamar was terrific again.

Dick is a great finisher for us. With & when Leon, Medders, Didak & Dick are fit & firing we can be very dangerous. We need the break badly to regroup because it has been a torrid first half of the season & many of our players need the rest.

Kicking so many behinds today really gives new meaning to traditional football.

Swanny, Pendles & Daisy - very good in the main today. Toovey displayed good judgement. Harry was tremendous but we really missed Maxwell in the line up, Johnston's run & penetration & Balls in & under & Didak's skill.

Could have been worse though - we could have lost.

Just took my dog for a walk: Looked up & guess what - the sky hadn't fallen in.

Just take a few deep breaths using your diaphragm (yes I'm sure there's a purile line there somewhere) in through the nose, hold it then exhale out through the mouth - ahh, that feels better.

[Melsa5]

Geez, we can't carry that many passengers over the course of a season, that's for sure. Great to see Brad Dick back. A bit of class and passion goes a long way. Still a very unsettled side. Lucky to share the points and limp to the break.

What gives you the right to be reasonable & balanced in your reaction to the game today? What, no blaming Malthouse, Eddie, Bucks, Fraser, Leon, McCaffer? Coor blimey!

Thank the god of your choice for Toovey!!

We played poorly in the main & eked out a draw. They played well & got a draw. No Maxwell after less than 10 min into the second quarter. We were running up & down on the spot for a fair bit of the last qtr.

Great pressure goal by Tarkyn who seemd to be well off his best today. What has happended to Wellingham since returning from injury?

Fraser in the crunch was just not concentrating when it counted - that is poor for a big man. Jamar was terrific again.

Dick is a great finisher for us. With & when Leon, Medders, Didak & Dick are fit & firing we can be very dangerous. We need the break badly to regroup because it has been a torrid first half of the season & many of our players need the rest.

Kicking so many behinds today really gives new meaning to traditional football.

Swanny, Pendles & Daisy - very good in the main today. Toovey displayed good judgement. Harry was tremendous but we really missed Maxwell in the line up, Johnston's run & penetration & Balls in & under & Didak's skill.

Could have been worse though - we could have lost.

Just took my dog for a walk: Looked up & guess what - the sky hadn't fallen in.

Just take a few deep breaths using your diaphragm (yes I'm sure there's a purile line there somewhere) in through the nose, hold it then exhale out through the mouth - ahh, that feels better.

Most sensible post of the night.

Totally agree

[Pants]

Don`t worry, wait till the altitude training of Mount Humphrey kicks in,
Hang on we`ve been there before,a $300,00 holiday goes a long way when you are recovering from a gruelling season