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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:13 pm
by Captain_MyCaptain
Stuff it, I'm keeping it interesting.
If Laverde goes at 4 to GWS then we've gotta take Wright at 5.

So there.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:27 pm
by RudeBoy
Captain_MyCaptain wrote:Stuff it, I'm keeping it interesting.
If Laverde goes at 4 to GWS then we've gotta take Wright at 5.

So there.
Agreed. :)

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:40 pm
by themonk
RudeBoy wrote:
Captain_MyCaptain wrote:Stuff it, I'm keeping it interesting.
If Laverde goes at 4 to GWS then we've gotta take Wright at 5.

So there.
Agreed. :)
Correct, however it also depends on how confident we are in landing a decent free agent next year. If we have already had discussions with Cameron then why recruit another tall, same goes for Dangerfield in terms of a mid.

I'm mentioning these two as I suspect we will or should have held such discussions already.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:50 pm
by RudeBoy
themonk wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
Captain_MyCaptain wrote:Stuff it, I'm keeping it interesting.
If Laverde goes at 4 to GWS then we've gotta take Wright at 5.

So there.
Agreed. :)
Correct, however it also depends on how confident we are in landing a decent free agent next year. If we have already had discussions with Cameron then why recruit another tall, same goes for Dangerfield in terms of a mid.

I'm mentioning these two as I suspect we will or should have held such discussions already.
I really doubt we're after any of these players. Such free agents - unless they are near the end of their careers - always come at a huge premium and threaten to unsettle the side. Darcy Moore will be our Cameron and Freeman will be our Dangerfield.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:58 pm
by jackcass
RudeBoy wrote:
themonk wrote:
RudeBoy wrote: Agreed. :)
Correct, however it also depends on how confident we are in landing a decent free agent next year. If we have already had discussions with Cameron then why recruit another tall, same goes for Dangerfield in terms of a mid.

I'm mentioning these two as I suspect we will or should have held such discussions already.
I really doubt we're after any of these players. Such free agents - unless they are near the end of their careers - always come at a huge premium and threaten to unsettle the side. Darcy Moore will be our Cameron and Freeman will be our Dangerfield.
I tend to agree. Wouldn't say no to either player mentioned, at the right price.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:06 pm
by On the March
Very difficult although not impossible to get the absolute guns in free agency.

Set the target slightly lower and more strategically about who you may be able to shake loose - say Nathan Jones from Melbourne / Taylor Walker from Adelaide?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:31 pm
by inxs88
Been a while since we landed a "big big" fish! Maybe Nathan in November 1993 would be the last. Whom have we missed in that time?

* T. Lockett
* C. Judd
* J. Brown

And I'm sure a few others. Feel we missed an opportunity in 2010-2011 to snare a big fish and create a "destination club" vibe like the Hawks have done.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:16 pm
by RudeBoy
inxs88 wrote:Been a while since we landed a "big big" fish! Maybe Nathan in November 1993 would be the last. Whom have we missed in that time?

* T. Lockett
* C. Judd
* J. Brown

And I'm sure a few others. Feel we missed an opportunity in 2010-2011 to snare a big fish and create a "destination club" vibe like the Hawks have done.
We won the premiership in 2010 without landing any 'big fish'. Instead, we'd recruited 'medium fish' in Ball and Jolly, to fill particular gaping holes in our team structure. Right now I don't think we're missing any pieces. Rather, we just need our young players to develop as expected, especially our 2 ruck monsters in Witts and Grundy.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:06 pm
by Az
themonk wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
Captain_MyCaptain wrote:Stuff it, I'm keeping it interesting.
If Laverde goes at 4 to GWS then we've gotta take Wright at 5.

So there.
Agreed. :)
Correct, however it also depends on how confident we are in landing a decent free agent next year. If we have already had discussions with Cameron then why recruit another tall, same goes for Dangerfield in terms of a mid.

I'm mentioning these two as I suspect we will or should have held such discussions already.
Cameron isn't a free agent next year, he is just out of contract. Meaning we are still going to have to get a trade done with GWS to sign him same as the Beams situation. Enter Wright. If it's decided we rate Cameron more than Wright (if we do draft him), a huge marking tall forward/ruck drafted at pick 5 should get the job done.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:17 pm
by watt price tully
Az wrote:
themonk wrote:
RudeBoy wrote: Agreed. :)
Correct, however it also depends on how confident we are in landing a decent free agent next year. If we have already had discussions with Cameron then why recruit another tall, same goes for Dangerfield in terms of a mid.

I'm mentioning these two as I suspect we will or should have held such discussions already.
Cameron isn't a free agent next year, he is just out of contract. Meaning we are still going to have to get a trade done with GWS to sign him same as the Beams situation. Enter Wright. If it's decided we rate Cameron more than Wright (if we do draft him), a huge marking tall forward/ruck drafted at pick 5 should get the job done.
That's assuming the player wants to go there.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:21 pm
by woftam
RudeBoy wrote:
inxs88 wrote:Been a while since we landed a "big big" fish! Maybe Nathan in November 1993 would be the last. Whom have we missed in that time?

* T. Lockett
* C. Judd
* J. Brown

And I'm sure a few others. Feel we missed an opportunity in 2010-2011 to snare a big fish and create a "destination club" vibe like the Hawks have done.
We won the premiership in 2010 without landing any 'big fish'. Instead, we'd recruited 'medium fish' in Ball and Jolly, to fill particular gaping holes in our team structure. Right now I don't think we're missing any pieces. Rather, we just need our young players to develop as expected, especially our 2 ruck monsters in Witts and Grundy.
Agree with this 100%. So we better look hard for a great ruck coach. These guys need guidance to become the players we think they can be.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:23 pm
by themonk
watt price tully wrote:
Az wrote:
themonk wrote: Correct, however it also depends on how confident we are in landing a decent free agent next year. If we have already had discussions with Cameron then why recruit another tall, same goes for Dangerfield in terms of a mid.

I'm mentioning these two as I suspect we will or should have held such discussions already.
Cameron isn't a free agent next year, he is just out of contract. Meaning we are still going to have to get a trade done with GWS to sign him same as the Beams situation. Enter Wright. If it's decided we rate Cameron more than Wright (if we do draft him), a huge marking tall forward/ruck drafted at pick 5 should get the job done.
That's assuming the player wants to go there.
Cameron is a mad Pies fan, would we send picks & say Nathan Brown to GWS for him? I'd say yes.

Anyway, this is all hypothetical but still needs to be considered in our decision process.

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:32 am
by E
themonk wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
Captain_MyCaptain wrote:Stuff it, I'm keeping it interesting.
If Laverde goes at 4 to GWS then we've gotta take Wright at 5.

So there.
Agreed. :)
Correct, however it also depends on how confident we are in landing a decent free agent next year. If we have already had discussions with Cameron then why recruit another tall, same goes for Dangerfield in terms of a mid.

I'm mentioning these two as I suspect we will or should have held such discussions already.
by taking Wright, you have amazing trade bait for next year to get a top shelf player (or you might just accidentally find out you drafted the next Nick Reiwoldt)

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:33 am
by E
themonk wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
Az wrote: Cameron isn't a free agent next year, he is just out of contract. Meaning we are still going to have to get a trade done with GWS to sign him same as the Beams situation. Enter Wright. If it's decided we rate Cameron more than Wright (if we do draft him), a huge marking tall forward/ruck drafted at pick 5 should get the job done.
That's assuming the player wants to go there.
Cameron is a mad Pies fan, would we send picks & say Nathan Brown to GWS for him? I'd say yes.

Anyway, this is all hypothetical but still needs to be considered in our decision process.
What if we could send Brown and Wright to GWS for Cameron?

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:44 am
by themonk
E wrote:
themonk wrote:
watt price tully wrote: That's assuming the player wants to go there.
Cameron is a mad Pies fan, would we send picks & say Nathan Brown to GWS for him? I'd say yes.

Anyway, this is all hypothetical but still needs to be considered in our decision process.
What if we could send Brown and Wright to GWS for Cameron?
hey, take it easy 8)