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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:36 pm
by mudlark
Rush Stand Wing wrote:Geek wrote:Cam wrote:He's a better kick, more proactive link player, bit like a slower, more accountable Howe without the leap. Lose the tash but I'm not sure he will run both ways much harder than Brown. He will get more involved with the rebounding though, and be more trusted with kick outs and delivering.
... allowing Howe onto the field as a marking target. That's a plus
I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with a new bloke taking the kick-in's. He'd have to come to understand our systems/traits VERY quickly. I'd see him more of a bullocking pack crasher and link up for long kicks to half forward. Or is he just a stay at home FB ?
When you factor into this deal, the 'potential' they may bond well together in the back pocket based from their past playing days, it sounds practical
So you don't actually think, that 6 months' pre season and numerous training and bonding sessions will see this play out as any normal thinking person would see it??? I just see this as another whinge by another person who wouldn't be happy no matter what we did.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:52 pm
by Leggie
Rush Stand Wing wrote:Geek wrote:Cam wrote:He's a better kick, more proactive link player, bit like a slower, more accountable Howe without the leap. Lose the tash but I'm not sure he will run both ways much harder than Brown. He will get more involved with the rebounding though, and be more trusted with kick outs and delivering.
... allowing Howe onto the field as a marking target. That's a plus
I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with a new bloke taking the kick-in's. He'd have to come to understand our systems/traits VERY quickly. I'd see him more of a bullocking pack crasher and link up for long kicks to half forward. Or is he just a stay at home FB ?
When you factor into this deal, the 'potential' they may bond well together in the back pocket based from their past playing days, it sounds practical
Everything will be fine mate.
You just relax.
It's all going to be
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:28 pm
by Rush Stand Wing
mudlark wrote:Rush Stand Wing wrote:Geek wrote:
... allowing Howe onto the field as a marking target. That's a plus
I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with a new bloke taking the kick-in's. He'd have to come to understand our systems/traits VERY quickly. I'd see him more of a bullocking pack crasher and link up for long kicks to half forward. Or is he just a stay at home FB ?
When you factor into this deal, the 'potential' they may bond well together in the back pocket based from their past playing days, it sounds practical
So you don't actually think, that 6 months' pre season and numerous training and bonding sessions will see this play out as any normal thinking person would see it??? I just see this as another whinge by another person who wouldn't be happy no matter what we did.
Not at all. I'm actually quite optimistic. I just think Howe's kick-in ability has been hard to beat...admittedly compared to a guy I don't know little about. So he can kick long and accurate but does he have the ability and confidence to hit shorter moving targets? Does he have the touch for a big bloke? I'll calm down and trust the process but just highlighting a concern about a new player kicking-in. Wells is quite experienced at it and gives us another option too but he is elite
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:12 pm
by AN_Inkling
mudlark wrote:AN_Inkling wrote:Something that I find interesting and I've been noticing it for a while: when we lose players we attempt to replace them with those of a similar age profile, to keep the balance, especially with older players as we have so few. I think when you look at our mooted changes in this way they seem quite a bit more positive:
Cloke (29) --> Dunn (29) - I'd back Dunn as the more useful modern footballer
Brown (27) --> Mayne (27) - Mayne, to me, is likely to be much more effective
Swan (32) --> Wells (31) - very different types, but Wells will offer us plenty
There are those who are confused by our strategy, but to me it's a simple matter of replacing lost experience with better suited, and in some cases cheaper, options. Looking at those changes, I am very comfortable with the players we've targeted so far. Going younger would not have been a positive move and in some cases, like free agents, was actually not an option.
Hey Inky.. I hope you don't mind but I have plagiarised your post on my face book page.I copied and Pasted the Players names and ages to point out to a dickhead ,what was ACTUALLY happening with our trades. If it's a drama I will take it down, but it got quite a few likes.
No problem at all, cheers.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:38 pm
by BEAMER09
Michael Firrito is a good kick and reliable - why don' we get him as well...
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:16 pm
by watt price tully
Culprit wrote:mooretreloar wrote:Dave The Man wrote:Talk going around that Dunn Trade has been Agreed upon and Just waiting for Tommorow to Lodge it.
I am half expecting the Pick 44 we look like getting for Witts be the Pick we Trade
Think 44 is too high, talk the Dees need to free up salary cap to fit Lewis and Hibberd in, so think like us with Cloke they will accept a 4th rounder. Maybe we use the pick we get for Cloke or a three way deal:
Dunn to us
Cloke to Dogs
Pick from Dogs to Dees.
That is the way I see it as well.
Yep, looks like (it ought to be) the go.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:10 pm
by mike2010
Looks like he can swing forward too
https://youtu.be/YQj6cTdcCzo
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:29 pm
by 5 from the wing on debut
I have a recollection that he may have commenced his career as a forward, or at lest spent a bit of time there early on.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:33 pm
by John Wren
dunn deal.
Welcome to Collingwood, Lynden Dunn
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:34 pm
by Jezza
Welcome to the club.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:36 pm
by piedys
DUNN DEAL IS A DONE DEAL
Lynden Dunn crosses to Collingwood from Melbourne with the Demons' third round pick (No.51) in exchange for pick No.47 (R3).
<snip - is there a slightly less graphic analogy you might like to use?>
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:41 pm
by CarringbushCigar
5 from the wing on debut wrote:
I have a recollection that he may have commenced his career as a forward, or at lest spent a bit of time there early on.
He played most of his footy forward - usually CHF.
He was poor, but it may have been more about the side and environment.
Had some standout games at FB where he would out mark and take off, looking dominant.
Our FF CHF CHB FB stocks are super low, whilst the rest of the side oozes class.
Don't know what the hell we are doing or what it means.
A lot of faith in Moore/White/Cox or playing a brand new style of football.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:47 pm
by piedys
piedys wrote:DUNN DEAL IS A DONE DEAL
Lynden Dunn crosses to Collingwood from Melbourne with the Demons' third round pick (No.51) in exchange for pick No.47 (R3).
<snip - is there a slightly less graphic analogy you might like to use?>
Okay - Has our anus stopped haemorrhaging yet from the the utterly idiot price we just paid for this unwanted Melbourne reserves player?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:48 pm
by schuey07
piedys wrote:piedys wrote:DUNN DEAL IS A DONE DEAL
Lynden Dunn crosses to Collingwood from Melbourne with the Demons' third round pick (No.51) in exchange for pick No.47 (R3).
<snip - is there a slightly less graphic analogy you might like to use?>
Okay - Has our anus stopped haemorrhaging yet from the the utterly idiot price we just paid for this unwanted Melbourne reserves player?
We didn't pay a lot.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:50 pm
by ad4eva
Correct me if I am wrong, but whether we had selection 47 or 51, either way we would be using it to select one of our father sons?
All it does is help Melbourne step up the pecking order and we get Dunn for nothing.
