Las Vegas shooting

[David]

[K]

On the possible drug link...

Quotes on benzodiazepines and violence:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/violence.htm

For SSRIs, see links in:
https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2015/09 ... -homicide/

Thanks K. I am sure these drugs have been subjected to clinical trials, but on the scale that such trials are performed, they may well fail to pick up the (say) one in five thousand who may have this type of extreme reaction and who might pick up a gun if guns are widely available. Yet the side effects packaged with the medications list rage and aggression as a side effect. The question becomes "is the benefit to many worth the cost from a few ?".

I am sure it is not just SSRIs and other drugs, even if they are a key factor, but culture plays a role as well. The hyper-individualism of American life puts terrible pressure on some people.

Do you watch the BBC's Panorama, Mugwump? An episode entitled "Prescription for murder?" aired recently (August) and is viewable in your parts on the BBC's iPlayer. If you've watched it or watch it in the future, do share your impressions of it with us.

[stui magpie]

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I read it more as a conspiracy theory. Same principle as anti virus software companies creating viruses to keep themselves in business, the FBI are (allegedly according to Assange) creating terrorist events so they can be the hero.

It's like Munchausen by proxy in an organisation.

[David]

[think positive]

Um goading them? It sounds like you think it's entrapment when the truth is the old bastards are usually looking for young things, and the cops are potentially saving a rape or murder victim,

[David]

[Mugwump]

On the possible drug link...

Quotes on benzodiazepines and violence:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/violence.htm

For SSRIs, see links in:
https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2015/09 ... -homicide/

Thanks K. I am sure these drugs have been subjected to clinical trials, but on the scale that such trials are performed, they may well fail to pick up the (say) one in five thousand who may have this type of extreme reaction and who might pick up a gun if guns are widely available. Yet the side effects packaged with the medications list rage and aggression as a side effect. The question becomes "is the benefit to many worth the cost from a few ?".

I am sure it is not just SSRIs and other drugs, even if they are a key factor, but culture plays a role as well. The hyper-individualism of American life puts terrible pressure on some people.

Do you watch the BBC's Panorama, Mugwump? An episode entitled "Prescription for murder?" aired recently (August) and is viewable in your parts on the BBC's iPlayer. If you've watched it or watch it in the future, do share your impressions of it with us.

When I can, as it is usually great investigative journalism, but I missed that one, K. I'll pick it up on iPlayer, and thanks for the lead.

[Mugwump]

[Pa Marmo]

[watt price tully]

[David]

Posts like that exist in such a mirror world that it seems almost impossible to know where to start.

The sub-prime mortgage crisis, and the societal upheaval that it has caused? Obama's fault.
The rampant gun culture, and constant NRA/Republican stonewalling of any regulations that could have helped curtail it, that have led to massacres like this one? Obama's fault.
Racial tensions, the re-emergence of white supremacism as a political force, fighting in the streets? Obama's fault.
Trillions of dollars wasted on ongoing, unresolved conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq? Obama's fault.

I mean, really. Where do you even start?

[HAL]

Oh I see. For real.

[Skids]

The argument for gun control is strong. Look at Australia as a case study. Since guns were more tightly controlled, no mass shootings.

Now that fuitcake with the commodore mad a mess in the bourke st mall, but as I said earlier people will find a wy. How much worse could that have been if he's had easy access to guns?

This is another bullshit story the media would like us to believe.

There was a shooting here in Perth last night, not a 'mass shooting' (that's where 4 or more people are injured), but another shooting none the less.

The last 'mass shooting' in Australia was - The lindt cafe incident in December 2014, 7 people were shot. 3 killed & 4 injured.

The previous 'mass shooting' was - The Hunt family murders in September 2014 - 5 people shot & killed.

Prior to that, Monash University, October 2002 - 7 people shot, 2 of which died.

There have been countless other shootings throughout the country.

All this in a country with strict gun ownership rules..... ah, the fake news.

[David]

^ That's three 'mass shootings' (in which the total injured and dead were still in single figures) in twenty years. If only the US had such a problem on its hands...

[Skids]