Post-match: Pies down to Carlton

[RudeBoy]

I'm just glad I'm also a Liverpool supporter. At least under Jurgen Klopp, they are playing with enormous spirit and now find themselves in the final of the Europa League.

[Redlight]

[Pies4shaw]

Does anyone know what the 50metre penalty to Daisy was for?

After all of that, that's your question? Seriously?

The answer, of course, is that he got it for being a Carlton player in a Carlton/Collingwood game. It's been happening for 124 years (well, no, not specifically 50 metre penalties for nothing - that's only been happening for a couple of decades) and won't stop anytime soon. I think, though, that there are more pressing concerns.

[Woods]

Cloke - back injury reason for not playing VFL.

Thanks for that.

Sam Gastin on the club's VFL feed tried to explain it like this:

"He was the carry-over emergency at the MCG today and has been held back from the VFL game as a result."

Yeah sure, Sam.

[Pies4shaw]

I'm just glad I'm also a Liverpool supporter. At least under Jurgen Klopp, they are playing with enormous spirit and now find themselves in the final of the Europa League.

Ah, yes - the European FA's equivalent of the Escort Cup.

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

Carlton 15.9.99
Collingwood 12.12.84

Goals: Fasolo 4, Moore 3, White 2, Greenwood, Broomhead, Blair
Disposals: Pendlebury 34, Sidebottom 29, Treloar 27, Howe 22, Blair 19, Reid 19
'AF' points: Pendlebury 118, Sidebottom 109, Howe, 98, Treloar 96, Reid 96

Sun, rain or hail, 'Lets hear ya' prevails....

[HAL]

[Museman]

Does anyone know what the 50metre penalty to Daisy was for?

dipshit Maynard just cruised on by about 2m from him, bloke is hard and has a go.....but he's as dumb as fkn cardboard on the football field

[Flashman]

Let's put some perspective on this.

A very, very inexperienced team, missing a lot of our top players, either injured or out of form - Swanny, Varcoe, Elliott, Ramsay, Langdon, Adams, Cloke. Two six-day breaks and a trip to Perth thrown in.

We're officially now in a development year. Absolutely nothing to be gained by switching coaches now and creating even more disunity and lack of cohesion.

Yeah there is.

Buckley isn't going to coach beyond this year and keeping him in charge is only going to further erode the players already shot confidence. We are disgraceful and still getting worse and the players aren't benefitting or developing at all from Buckley's tutelage, whatever that is.. A new voice, all be it in a care taker role will at least be a new message, a new mindset and a paradigm shift from the flawed plan they are receiving and it will at least offer the players an alternative from this soul destroying style of play they are failing to play to. Who knows maybe some of them will remember how to enjoy their football again.

Yeah, a well-considered change could perhaps produce some of these positives. But, I really can't recall an instance where a switching a head coach during a season magically produced these effects and sustained them for 14 games, which is how many we have left.

Plus, it is not just the players and Bucks who are at a low ebb, it has to be the whole coaching panel and the rest of the footy department. I'm sure some of us would like to see Scotty Burns take over, but the mid-field isn't exactly producing that much either.

With the support of the Board, there's nothing to say that the team and the present coaching panel can't revise their thinking and their approach and take on a "we've got nothing to lose - let's just go for it and enjoy the ride" type of approach anyway. It would be allowing all this external pressure to cloud their days and bring them all down that would be their biggest mistake.

Fair points mate.

But I just don't think Buckley is a "we've got nothing to lose-let's just enjoy the ride" sort of person and coach. It's a deadly serious matter for him but it doesn't translate to the playing group and it clearly has them second guessing themselves and playing nervous, unsure and ineffective (that's putting it mildly) football.

The supporter base is hopelessly divided, disillusioned and disheartened now and we need all residue from the ruinous "succession plan" removed before the club can move on and move forward once again. Yeah Eddie will probably stay but from now on he needs to keep the fukk out of making anymore captains calls about who coaches this club. His romantic notion of him, Bucks and Mick holding hands as Collingwood marched towards years of premierships has left this club in the sorry state it is in today.

[MightyMagpie]

Does anyone know what the 50metre penalty to Daisy was for?

One of our witches hats plodded past the "area".
Any excuse for those lump of shit umpires.

If it is the incident I'm thinking of, Broomhead (with a bandaged arm?) was in the 10m protected area and Howe was on the mark.

EDIT: There were 5+ 50m penalties paid against us so I may have the wrong one.

[Thunderbird]

That was cringe worthy. Bucks is a Collingwood great and always will be, but he needs to go. The players seem confused and not interested. I would also make darcy moore our captain.

No.. Moore is a kid and he is actually 2 years physically away from where we need him to be. We are doing a Josh Fraser all over again and Darcy getting hammered every game by big blokes will take its toll and reduce his longevity and that's a shame.

Yes.. Bucks has to go. We are doing a Tony Shaw all over again and I don't know why the Pies (in head office) can't see it.

[KenH]

Very sad lad here tonight, I have relented to the "perceptive fellow" and now agree that my favorite footballer cannot coach, bye bye Bucks!

[blackandwhite4life]

I don't feel any anger,just sadness at what has happened to our club.We have just become a directionless rabble,with no heart,skill,no structures,and no game plan.

Nathan Buckley,i loved you as a player,you were a champion through and through.But after five years of steadily declining performances,it's clear to me that you can not coach,and you are doing untold damage to this club.Please resign for the good of the club,before your reputation is sullied even further.

That's exactly how I feel.

No excitement or passion or even anger today......and we were playing Carlton. I don't even kick the furniture any more when the umps screw us. There is an inevitability about the way we play now (or don't play), no passion, flair. My heart rate would barely even fluctuate now when I watch the pies. Sad!

The heart and soul of a premiership winning team has been unfortunately ripped out of the club, and the relevant people in charge need to be open and honest about the mistakes that have been made. Otherwise, we won't move on.

Compare the coaching handover of Roos to Longmire with Malthouse to Buckley. Ok, Sydney had the COLA advantage, but that doesn't cover the massive difference in results. Longmire had done his time and didn't try to change too much. Bucks hadn't done his time and tried to change too much.

[Culprit]

Remember when we gave it to all those Carlton supporters about how crap their team was? What goes around, comes around and it's best to suck it up.

[Mountains Magpie]

Come on Ed - don't give me this crap about taking a deep breath.
You said you love Malthouse, you love Bucks but you love Collingwood more.

There may be someone he loves more than that.......

MM