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HAL wrote:Yes he did, didn't he.
Oh really? Do you think Yes he did, didn't he?
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Tannin wrote:^ Interesting. The ruck stats were clearly in favour of Freo at one point - possibly it was only half-time though.
One of the coaches gave Grundy 3 votes.
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Pies4shaw wrote:
Tannin wrote:^ Interesting. The ruck stats were clearly in favour of Freo at one point - possibly it was only half-time though.
One of the coaches gave Grundy 3 votes.
Can't believe Buckley gave Grundy 3 votes. Could only have been Ross Lyon who would have been so disappointed with Griffen's first half.
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
Tannin wrote:^ Interesting. The ruck stats were clearly in favour of Freo at one point - possibly it was only half-time though.
One of the coaches gave Grundy 3 votes.
Can't believe Buckley gave Grundy 3 votes. Could only have been Ross Lyon who would have been so disappointed with Griffen's first half.
We smashed them in the hitouts, which enabled our midfielders first use of the ball.
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RudeBoy wrote:
BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote: One of the coaches gave Grundy 3 votes.
Can't believe Buckley gave Grundy 3 votes. Could only have been Ross Lyon who would have been so disappointed with Griffen's first half.
We smashed them in the hitouts, which enabled our midfielders first use of the ball.
Don't disagree with any of that. But I don't see how you fit Grundy in the votes when Treloar, Pendlebury and Sidebottom are starring in the midfield.
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Treloar has a bit of the Judd's about him, worth every bit of the trade.
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Treloar of course was awesome. His ability to will the ball forward from congestion when it looked like only a ball up was possible resulted in many scoring opportunities we had no right to expect. Pendlebury, Adams, Howe and Sidebottom were all very good and Greenwood had a major impact in the first half.

Three players I want to focus on though are: Crisp, Hoskin-Elliott and Maynard. These three are transforming the way we play. They're giving us run and pace that we've lacked for so long. Crisp in particular was excellent, breaking tackles and running through the centre. WHE was a key target from kick ins and really helped us move it forward. Maynard is so much quicker than I'd thought. But most extraordinary is his forward passing: hitting a target on his last 6 forward 50 entries. He's always been a powerful kick but is now showing a finesse that looked beyond him early on (a short kick usually meant a turnover).

These types along with the more mobile defenders in Howe and Goldsack and our mobile forward line are seeing us play a very different game. Gone is the long bomb to the forward line expecting a tall to contest. Instead we are seeing a patient and assured build up, proving we do have the necessary skills. Removing the NQR talls has helped catalyse this change, because bombing is simply not possible. The question now will be whether we can keep it up against better opposition.

It's been a good move to play our best team instead of picking players that aren't good enough just because you're "supposed" to have two tall forwards or defenders.
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Wokko wrote:Treloar has a bit of the Judd's about him, worth every bit of the trade.
More than a bit I reckon.
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AN_Inkling wrote:Treloar of course was awesome. His ability to will the ball forward from congestion when it looked like only a ball up was possible resulted in many scoring opportunities we had no right to expect. Pendlebury, Adams, Howe and Sidebottom were all very good and Greenwood had a major impact in the first half.

Three players I want to focus on though are: Crisp, Hoskin-Elliott and Maynard. These three are transforming the way we play. They're giving us run and pace that we've lacked for so long. Crisp in particular was excellent, breaking tackles and running through the centre. WHE was a key target from kick ins and really helped us move it forward. Maynard is so much quicker than I'd thought. But most extraordinary is his forward passing: hitting a target on his last 6 forward 50 entries. He's always been a powerful kick but is now showing a finesse that looked beyond him early on (a short kick usually meant a turnover).

These types along with the more mobile defenders in Howe and Goldsack and our mobile forward line are seeing us play a very different game. Gone is the long bomb to the forward line expecting a tall to contest. Instead we are seeing a patient and assured build up, proving we do have the necessary skills. Removing the NQR talls has helped catalyse this change, because bombing is simply not possible. The question now will be whether we can keep it up against better opposition.

It's been a good move to play our best team instead of picking players that aren't good enough just because you're "supposed" to have two tall forwards or defenders.
Very astute as usual, esp. re Crisp, Maynard and WHE's strategic impact. trloar is Bronwlow material, I'd have thought.
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: Can't believe Buckley gave Grundy 3 votes. Could only have been Ross Lyon who would have been so disappointed with Griffen's first half.
We smashed them in the hitouts, which enabled our midfielders first use of the ball.
Don't disagree with any of that. But I don't see how you fit Grundy in the votes when Treloar, Pendlebury and Sidebottom are starring in the midfield.
When a ruckman does his job both as a tap ruckman AND around the ground, he should be a consideration for votes. He won his position in the hit outs and finished with 21 disposals ( 13 of which were contested and the equal most on the ground ) He effectively played the role equal to a reasonable game for an inside mid as well as rucking. He wasn't BOG but I have no problems with him snagging a few coaches votes.
I thought he was a little fumbly in close on the day but he certainly did some damage despite that.
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Didn't see any of the game, but just saw Goldies efforts in the last quarter.
OMG, what courage!
If that's how the team played out the game, well maybe they are playing for the coach! Bloody brilliant! go Pies!
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II loved this win in the end but overall I thought it was lucky we were playing a very ordinary Fremantle without there most important player in Sandilands. Terribly bad luck to loose Elliot with what looks to be a long term injury, Wells is going to struggle with calf injuries for the rest of his career, Goldy's shoulder also looked a long term problem. We need Fasolo back to replace Elliot but obviously he is a bit fragile at the moment.
The Demons will be tough coming off a bye. Let's hope they bring there inconsistency to the game again.

Changes for this week;
Out: Elliot, Wells, Goldsack, Greenwood
In: Kirby, Brown, Blair and Schade
Our depth is again being tested and I don't have a lot of faith in Blair or Schade but am hopeful they can rise to play a role in what will be a huge game.
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Boot wrote:II loved this win in the end but overall I thought it was lucky we were playing a very ordinary Fremantle without there most important player in Sandilands. Terribly bad luck to loose Elliot with what looks to be a long term injury, Wells is going to struggle with calf injuries for the rest of his career, Goldy's shoulder also looked a long term problem. We need Fasolo back to replace Elliot but obviously he is a bit fragile at the moment.
The Demons will be tough coming off a bye. Let's hope they bring there inconsistency to the game again.

Changes for this week;
Out: Elliot, Wells, Goldsack, Greenwood
In: Kirby, Brown, Blair and Schade
Our depth is again being tested and I don't have a lot of faith in Blair or Schade but am hopeful they can rise to play a role in what will be a huge game.
I reckon Greenwood will get up with 8 days off.
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Just watched the replay. Loved the effort and intensity which has improved over the last few weeks. We were better for longer and wanted the win more than freo in the end. But to do it under duress with limited numbers on the bench makes it all the more enjoyable. We'll see quite a few changes I'd imagine this week I'd imagine. Looks like wells is gone for 3-4 weeks if it's his calf. Elliott may miss a month or so depending on the severity of his ankle injury. Greenwood should get up but Goldsack looks like he needs a brand new shoulder. On the downside though, our kicking for goal is still really terrible and basically what let freo back in the game. We need to capitalise on our opportunities in front of goal. There's simply no excuse for strolling into an open goal with minimal pressure and missing. Fix this and we'd be able to put a lot of sides to the sword.
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give it to De Goey and he will De Goals!
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