Bushfires and fuel reduction

[stui magpie]

[David]

If I'm reading that correctly, they're saying that they received submissions criticising "conservation imperatives" as being unduly prioritised, not that the inquiry itself found that to be the case. Elsewhere, the inquiry does describe such imperatives as being "in tension" with hazard reduction burning, but there's no suggestion that there's been an undue focus on it (perhaps I'm not adequately reading between the lines, but I think it's telling that there's nothing in the recommendations about shifting the balance away from conservation concerns or watering down regulations). Elsewhere, for what it's worth, the question of whether there needed to be more hazard reduction burning and whether it would have had any significant impact on the fires is described as being "not fully understood or quantified".

[stui magpie]

I saw all that.

it will be interesting if there's any such inquiry report into the Victorian fires. It seems on the surface that this is another example of where NSW has it's shit together better than Victoria.

[eddiesmith]

The UFU in Victoria said there was no need for another enquiry so Dans hands are tied!

[watt price tully]

I think we should be adopting Aboriginal tradtional practices but lets not go too far. I draw the line at their form of male circumcision. Anaesthetic, a slalpel & when you're a baby beats two pieces of flint and being a teenager.

[David]

It's the adult converts I feel most sorry for, WPT!

[stui magpie]

The UFU in Victoria said there was no need for another enquiry so Dans hands are tied!

Guess we'll see what happens this year then. There's plenty of places still ripe to burn and with La Nina bringing more rain to get all the grass and undergrowth going, all we'll need is a couple of hot dry weeks in late January.

That's assuming they haven't been doing hazard reduction burns and clearing undergrowth during Covid.

[watt price tully]

I saw all that.

it will be interesting if there's any such inquiry report into the Victorian fires. It seems on the surface that this is another example of where NSW has it's shit together better than Victoria.

With all due respect: there’s been loads of inquiries including a royal commission in Victoria. What we need to see is have the recommendations been enacted, if so to what extent? If not why not.

That’s where governments need to be held accountable, to what extent have they implemented recommendations (of all political persuasions and jurisdictions)

There needs to be some mechanism to highlight what was recommended and what was done (& not just related to fires).

[eddiesmith]

The previous government enacted the findings then the Andrews government reversed them.

Notice how the worst fires in Victoria all occur under Labor governments?

1983, 2009, 2020.

Must be a coincidence

But we do have all these enquiries and the unions refuse to cooperate then tell Andrews what they want and he does that instead.

[watt price tully]

The previous government enacted the findings then the Andrews government reversed them.

Notice how the worst fires in Victoria all occur under Labor governments?

1983, 2009, 2020.

Must be a coincidence

But we do have all these enquiries and the unions refuse to cooperate then tell Andrews what they want and he does that instead.

Eddie, get your hand off it, you’ll go blind.

[eddiesmith]

Pot, Kettle, Black

[stui magpie]

Great article about how reintroducing traditional burning practices in the Great Sandy Desert are having positive impacts on biodiversity and preventing the large hot bush fires that used to happen most years.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-11/ ... /100083720