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Who do you hope wins the US Election?

Trump
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39%
Biden
9
39%
Don't Care
5
22%
 
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Conservative judges rule to continue to disenfranchise voters (read exclude blacks and the poor) from having votes counted post the election day due to the corona-virus and other postal delays (In Wisconsin)

"...The Supreme Court on Monday night rejected a pandemic-related request from Democrats and civil rights groups to extend the deadline for counting mail-in ballots received after Election Day in the key battleground state of Wisconsin.

The vote was 5 to 3, with the Republican-nominated conservatives in the majority and the Democratic-nominated liberals in dissent. The court’s order showed the deep division within the court about the series of pandemic-related election cases that have come to dominate its agenda.

The court’s conservatives say they must defer to state officials on election decisions made in the largely Republican-run states, and the liberal justices say there is a need for dramatic action by judges to ensure the franchise for endangered voters during an unprecedented time....
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The alleged rapist Judge Kavanagh is front and square here

“On the scales of both constitutional justice and electoral accuracy, protecting the right to vote in a health crisis outweighs conforming to a deadline created in safer days,” liberal Justice Elena Kagan wrote in dissent
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
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watt price tully wrote: The alleged rapist Judge Kavanagh is front and square here
Not to detract from the news story, but let's not forget that Biden is also an alleged rapist, and that the accusation against Kavanaugh had a similar evidence basis (i.e. one woman's word against his). Both claims were made decades after the alleged incident during highly politicised moments (Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings and Biden's primary race). I see no reason to assume one allegation is true and not the other apart from sheer partisanship.
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Kavanaugh and Thomas were both accused of alleged crimes. This isn't a new playbook by Democrats.

Great to see ACB was confirmed today.
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Jezza wrote:K......

Great to see ACB was confirmed today.
Why is is great to see her confirned when it broke all the conventions of Judicial appoin tment just before an election and we've just seen more disenfranchisement through the juducal outcome in Wisconsin?
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watt price tully wrote:Why is is great to see her confirned when it broke all the conventions of Judicial appoin tment just before an election.
You make it sound like it's unprecedented to undertake a judicial appointment in an election year, or in-between election day and inauguration day.

The President has a 4-year term, and a third of Senators are up for re-election every 2 years. They had the constitutional authority to proceed with filling the vacancy if they wished.

History has shown the Senate has confirmed a nominee in an election year or even in-between an election and the inauguration of a new president.
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^ It might surprise you, but I happen to agree that Garland was entitled to a hearing and vote.
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Jezza wrote:
watt price tully wrote:Why is is great to see her confirned when it broke all the conventions of Judicial appoin tment just before an election.
You make it sound like it's unprecedented to undertake a judicial appointment in an election year, or in-between election day and inauguration day.

The President has a 4-year term, and a third of Senators are up for re-election every 2 years. They had the constitutional authority to proceed with filling the vacancy if they wished.

History has shown the Senate has confirmed a nominee in an election year or even in-between an election and the inauguration of a new president.
Honest question. Do you seriously believe what you wrote?

If so, how do you explain the way the Republicans denied the right of the previous administration to appoint a judge far, far away from election day, but now feel entitled to rush yet another one in.

Take note, in your answer, that the majority of the Supreme Court judges now sitting have been appointed by administrations which lost the vote, and explain how, in a democracy, this is good or reasonable.
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As I said above, Garland was entitled to a hearing and vote. McConnell was wrong to deny him that.

On your last point, those administrations won the electoral college which is what matters. Your obsession with the national popular vote doesn't change that.
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The problem with appointing 48 year old judges to their Supreme Court, of course, is that when they get cancer, it takes them out really quickly.
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Jezza wrote:Your obsession with the national popular vote
You mean "democracy". It's a word. Look it up.

Why are you obsessed with denying the will of the people? What possible excuse can you make for it?
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^ Look up the "Electoral College" system. It's been deciding US Presidential elections since 1788.
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Do you or do you not support democracy?

Yes or no. NO BS. No weasel words. Do you support majority rule?
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So you were appalled when Gillard won the election in 2010 with 37% of the vote?
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