US election 2020

[stui magpie]

Democracy and majority rules have a multitude of different incarnations around the world, all legitimate in their own way. The US system is more complex than a simple 2 party popular vote.

[Pi]

^
True enough:

One of the best ways to understand the US constitution is to read the federalist papers.

https://guides.loc.gov/federalist-papers/full-text


Its not about liking it or agreeing with it; just attempting to understand it in its context to US history.

For example US senators were not always decided by popular vote; up until the 17th amendment in 1913 they were appointed by state legislatures.

So why would a popular vote for a senator be a good idea or a bad idea?

Some argue that the popular vote of senators weakens state legislatures and that the 17th amendment should be repealed.

None of this stuff is simple 'majority rule's when you get into it.


How many people can actually explain the difference between a parliamentary democracy vs constitutional republic?

https://www.britannica.com/topic/democr ... r-republic

At the time the US constitution was written that definition was very much up for grabs.

[David]

A good, thorough analysis of the likely outcomes of the presidential election and House and Senate races:

https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-hou ... ame-102720

Long story short:

Data plus vibes equals a Biden cakewalk.

They also reckon the Democrats retake the Senate.

[pietillidie]

Wishful thinking from these authors, or is Cult Covid lying to pollsters again?

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/52 ... ning-bigly

[Tannin]

^ I read the first three or four paras, which were unrelenting junior high school level Polling and Opinion 101 with no sign of anything intelligent to say, and lost interest. Is there any point in reading the rest or is it all as juvenile as the first bit?

[pietillidie]

^Yes, horrid piece. But they will need to bury Trump by a margin for the mess to be dealt with to any degree, not simply fall over the line.

[Tannin]

^ Yes. Just so. A really big margin, otherwise we will have another stab-in-the-back myth.

[watt price tully]

538 as at 28/10/2020 US time is giving Trump an 11% chance of winning compared to Biden with an 89% chance of winning.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... -forecast/

4 years ago the Republicans could engineer an FBI investigation just before the election which was unprecedented and found nothing but the drama was the turning point.

This time there is Covid and they tried the same tactic with Biden Junior but that bullshit has fizzled faster than teenage sex.

Trump was on 13% likely to win last week.

[David]

[Pies4shaw]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/ ... ents-claim

[David]

One of those things that’s funny unless it’s true, I guess.

[Sicks Bux]

A good, thorough analysis of the likely outcomes of the presidential election and House and Senate races:

https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-hou ... ame-102720

Long story short:

Data plus vibes equals a Biden cakewalk.

They also reckon the Democrats retake the Senate.

Thanks for that. I listened to it the other day. I hope the Democrats win in a landslide and take the Senate. Then they won't be able to blame the Republicans for blocking progressive policies. It's about the best outcome progressives can hope for at this stage.

[watt price tully]

[pietillidie]

[Tannin]

Look at David .... happily quoting argument that there is "no evidence" to support the debunking of a baseless political clam for which there was never any evidence in the first place.