What made you happy today?
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FFS, I'm sorry I mentioned it. I thought WPT might have came across this individual, I didn't expect to trigger another episode.
Mods, I'm sorry, any danger of splitting this off into the Psych thread that only K posts in?
Mods, I'm sorry, any danger of splitting this off into the Psych thread that only K posts in?
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Back to being happy.
Went to see a surgeon today about the 2 hernias I have.
Good news is, no requirement for surgery anytime soon. I can put it off indefinitely.
The sort of bad news is I do need to start doing exercise again, particularly on my core because of my dodgy back. I can exercise no dramas, but hernias naturally get bigger over time and putting strain on the area by doing core exercises is going to speed that up. So the smart decision seems to be to do it sooner rather than much later.
So, good news for now, I'll wait to see if I'm going to be employed past May first. If I'm unemployed I'll do it and get it out of the road, if I'm employed I'll work around a time that I can afford to miss a week or so of work.
Went to see a surgeon today about the 2 hernias I have.
Good news is, no requirement for surgery anytime soon. I can put it off indefinitely.
The sort of bad news is I do need to start doing exercise again, particularly on my core because of my dodgy back. I can exercise no dramas, but hernias naturally get bigger over time and putting strain on the area by doing core exercises is going to speed that up. So the smart decision seems to be to do it sooner rather than much later.
So, good news for now, I'll wait to see if I'm going to be employed past May first. If I'm unemployed I'll do it and get it out of the road, if I'm employed I'll work around a time that I can afford to miss a week or so of work.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Not sure it works that way, but maybe your "friend" could try sticking his micro in a bee hive. The swelling could last 24-48 hours.
As David 'Bumble' lloyd says in this video, can you take the pain away and leave the swelling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrCNUrnsu2s
Not sure it works that way, but maybe your "friend" could try sticking his micro in a bee hive. The swelling could last 24-48 hours.
As David 'Bumble' lloyd says in this video, can you take the pain away and leave the swelling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrCNUrnsu2s
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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It's not really my views here; it's his supporters', who include health professionals like the psychiatrist and the Swinburne clinical psych. professor. (The details of what they say are enough to be a cause for concern, at least. It can be right to be concerned even if we're not certain about exactly every aspect of GD's situation.) The arguments you put forth are about how the system should work, etc., and those two (and the other supporters) must know those things too. The question is whether it does work, or really whether it did work in this case.watt price tully wrote:It is not in anyone interests to have people undertake ECT and indeed involuntary treatment if they don't need itK wrote:The psychologist, John Read, was there at the Tribunal hearing, unlike us. He was an independent witness, unlike Dr. Katz, Dr. SM, etc. (And we at least know the "it's okay because it's velcro not chains" comment was made by Paul Katz, because that's in the ABC video.)watt price tully wrote:...
Sounds like.......who know who the psychologist is. ...
Read claims several things from that Tribunal hearing:
1) They used the patient's memory loss as an argument for his alleged incapacity to object to continuation of the "treatment" they admitted was the cause of that memory loss;
2) they were allowed to keep the patient "chained" (with velcro!) so he was denied his right to attend the hearing;
3) their lawyer was playing puppet-master at the back of the room.
... GD's supporters say that, elsewhere, the father was banned from visits to GD because staff claimed he tried to speak to GD in a foreign language. GD's supporters say that can't be true because GD only knows English...
But I don't know how (if the first part is true) health institutions can justify an English-only rule anyway. Is this true of prisons? When murderers, terrorists, etc. get visits in prison, can they be forced to speak only English?
Yes people do get restrained to prevent injury to themselves and others a lot of the time: staff don't do it enough.
If you are a risk to yourself or others and have a known history of violence then sedation and restraint. Don't knbow this bloike but he's been jailed before and part of his cisotdial sentence was to be admitted to forensic mental health. This isn't for those who have a different point of view, don't like sugar in their coffee; it is for serious offenders who have serious mental illnesses.
Sometimes those individuals need treatments like ECT as unpleasant as it might sound when all other treatment options have failed.
As for the said psychologist.... We have his word however we don't know his agenda. We have his version of events. We have his bits of infomration and his experence of the hearings. I would take it with a grain of salt until I knew more. As I have stated there is nothing to be gained indeed a waste of time to unneccesarily use cooercive treatment. It simply defies logic.
I don't know GD personally. No one in this forum does. I just think it's quite unlikely the Swinburne professor was completely making up what he said about the Tribunal hearing, just because his own work is critical of ECT.
It does sound like the later Tribunal hearing decision was different from the earlier Tribunal decisions, even though no medical facts had changed. If nothing changed, and the decision is the opposite, that means one of those Tribunals must be wrong. (I don't know if they were the same people or not.)
On the litigation, it sounds like they were litigating just to try to get an injunction stopping Eastern Health from injecting the patient against his will. The magistrate ruled that it was not in his jurisdiction. (It's VCAT's.)
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Chilled out this arvo and finished reading Harry Potter and the cursed child.
Written as a play, it takes a little getting used to but once you're in a rhythm it flows well.
good story, liked it.
The secret that they don't want people who see the play to reveal is.....
Harry is scared of Pigeons.
Written as a play, it takes a little getting used to but once you're in a rhythm it flows well.
good story, liked it.
The secret that they don't want people who see the play to reveal is.....
Harry is scared of Pigeons.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Another woman due to birth with a rare red cell antibody - bloody hell so many lately!!
2 compatible units in Australia - please don't bleed, please don't bleed!!
Health baby delivered - decent set of lungs too the ruggit - little bleeding - mum and bub doing well!
Thank fck - I'm exhausted but very very happy!
2 compatible units in Australia - please don't bleed, please don't bleed!!
Health baby delivered - decent set of lungs too the ruggit - little bleeding - mum and bub doing well!
Thank fck - I'm exhausted but very very happy!
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2 units in the whole country?? Bloody hell, stress of having to handle/co ordinate actual life & death situations must be exhausting! Good on you.Morrigu wrote:Another woman due to birth with a rare red cell antibody - bloody hell so many lately!!
2 compatible units in Australia - please don't bleed, please don't bleed!!
Health baby delivered - decent set of lungs too the ruggit - little bleeding - mum and bub doing well!
Thank fck - I'm exhausted but very very happy!
Lucky she wasn't a bleeder!