US election 2020

[Wonka]

I was thinking of putting a heap of cash on Biden the other day because I think he's a certainty to win the popular vote, but I'm wary about Trump's ability to steal it through a combination of: voter suppression, disqualifying postal votes & contesting the result before the conservative Supreme Court.

Check SportsBet's terms and conditions re. contesting the result.

[Tannin]

My example had nothing to do with editing due to journalistic standards. He is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist that was been censored due to writing an article questioning the Biden issues.

Of course, that won't interest you because you seem to believe any approach used to battle Trump is fair, which is exactly the point we are making.

Rubbish. Utter, unqualified transparent rubbish.

The point here is that there is no credible evidence as regards the allegations coming out of the Trump camp. They are just unsupported claims, made by known serial liars.

I'd sooner believe the babies overboard one. It wasn't quite so obviously a lie.

No credible newspaper would print that rubbish. (Murdoch did print it, which speaks for itself really.)

[stui magpie]

Credible news sources are supposed to report news, not censor it.

By all means add caveats if they want around validity, but news is supposed to inform not shape opinion or censor stuff.

[roar]

I can scream "rubbish", too, but I don't because I realise it means nothing without substantiation, no matter how eloquent the rant.

Fact remains that a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist has resigned from a media source - one he started to allow integrity of reportage and editorial independence - because the editors there wanted to censor his article because it was discussing issues with the Biden camp.

Unfortunately this is not an isolated case but rather, another quality journalist being pushed out of a media source due to partisan politics. We now live in a world where sides are picked and there is no dissension allowed within the "team" because the other side are considered "far worse', therefore cheating is allowed.

[Tannin]

The fact remains that there is no credible evidence to support that muckraking. Stories that do not satisfy the basic requirements of journalistic honesty and ethics are not printed by any reputable paper, and rightly so.

If there was actual evidence, any hint of anything to see other than rumours started by Trump cronies - one of them already facing trial for fraud - then sure, print it. But there isn't.

[David]

So what can we make of the Steele dossier being reported on uncritically by quality newspapers, along with the other preposterous claims that came out around Russiagate (that Trump was a Russian agent, etc.)? All of that stuff was bogus and poorly sourced, but it slipped past the editors because it served a political agenda they were sympathetic to. (And let’s not even get started on these same outlets’ utter credulity when it came to reporting on intelligence claims about Saddam’s WMDs eighteen years ago.)

[roar]

There are heaps of examples, David, but it's no use as they won't accept anything that isn't bashing the "right".

[David]

[Pi]

Anyone actually know what he said here?

https://www.westernjournal.com/joe-bide ... et-phrase/

"I’ll lead an effective strategy to mobilize truinnerashuvaduprezure"

how would you say that in sign language?

[Tannin]

His campaign manager, and all of the other sane staff members left (if any), won't let him sack Fauci because they know that it would cost a heap of votes. But Trump hates Fauci with a real fury. Fauci does science, he does facts and he does evidence - all things Trump cannot abide - and he is a living, breathing, everyday reminder of how m,any Americans Trump has killed. Fauci's presence anywhere neat=r Trump is intolerable. Watch what happens after the election - there is a very good chance that Trump will fire him, regardless of the result.

The things the defeated Trump will do during the lame duck period don't bear thinking about.

[stui magpie]

Anyone actually know what he said here?

https://www.westernjournal.com/joe-bide ... et-phrase/

"I’ll lead an effective strategy to mobilize truinnerashuvaduprezure"

how would you say that in sign language?

That's a hell of a stutter.

[David]

[Pi]

^ what; a journalist acting in bad faith? how dare you

Biden was never that bad, listen to his speeches from 30 years ago. Every time I listen to the video I hear something different.

[David]

Yes, I do think there's been a sharp decline in the last four years, no question.

[stui magpie]

https://babylonbee.com/news/pentecostal ... sentences/?

Apparently he was speaking in tongues?