Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

Required player IMO.

No doubt trade bait and expendable, been there long enough for not enough

Hopefully some interest.

Normally a better kick at goal than he showed this year, and if that gets back on track, he'll be handy.

derkd wrote:

blakis wrote:We are not losing the Faz he was one of our better players this year. He just needs his role to be more clearly defined as a crumbing forward.

Don't get me wrong, I think he has played some solid games this year. Problems is he fits into the "not quite anything" player mold. As a forward he is almost a third tall....but not quite. If he is a small well he battles with Elliot for that spot. He does not get the disposals avg only 14 per game for 2015 for the middle of the ground.

A very good depth player, but i get the feeling he is to talented to play as simply a depth player. Does he play on a wing? try him down back?

No, this fits into the "not quite anything" post mold.

One small forward spot? Five talls then?

Depth player who played 17 games this year?

Fighting with Elliot for a spot when they played together more than half the season?

Fas has already been tried down back and occasionally gets up onto a wing. His best spot is as a lead up small forward and he wont be traded if the above are the best reasons people can come up with.

Love the Fas. He stays unless we get a great offer for him. No one is untradeable, it all depends on what's on offer.

He was good this year.

He flies too much with our talls on occasion when he should stay down and his set shot kicking for goal dropped off a little bit, but aside from that he did his job. His second half of the year when Cloke and Elliott were virtually useless was very good in particular. He has very good hands, can read it off the pack when he remembers to crumb and has the potential to be a very good finisher.

I'd look to trade others ahead of him that's for sure.

My view is no club has shown interest in him at this stage. If a club does I am sure the club would consider the offer. He has potential but teases us all the time.

I'd trade Cloke ahead of him.




Seriously.

Last year I would have taken anything we could get for him. This year he improved greatly.
My concern is can we play both Faz & Elliott in the same forward line ?
They are both the same type lead up mid sized forwards and neither is defensively strong or adept enough to play long patches in the midfield.
I wouldn't be trading him unless we got offered well over the odds (a early first round pick or 2 decent players with 50+ AFL games)

Is this really the last one?

qldmagpie67 wrote: My concern is can we play both Faz & Elliott in the same forward line ?
They are both the same type lead up mid sized forwards

Where does this myth come from? They are not the same. yeah, they have some similar traits but they're not the same.

Bob Sugar wrote:Required player IMO.

Agree Defender - err Bob Sugar.

He has improved in time but needs to understand that when he is in a contest with the likes of Moore, Cloke or White he needs to stay down, not detract from the marking contest and concentrate on crumbing if the oppotunity arises. He will get there in time and will improve his value in our forward line.

Assuming we get Treloar, I believe we have 19 first picked players in our team (i.e., if they are fit, they should play) and FAZ is one of them.


Backs - Langdon, Scharenberg, Williams, Brown, Reid (5)

Mids - Grundy, Pendles, Swan, Sidey, Treloar, Adams, Greenwood, Varcoe, De Goey, Broomhead (10)

Forwards - Cloke, Moore, Elliot, FAZ!!!! (4)

I would make all 19 of these players untouchable!

There are then about 15 players who also capable of getting games if form and availability of the above makes it possible.

Crisp, Frost, White, Witts, Oxley, Goldsack, Blair, Maynard, Marsh, Ramsey, Sinclair, Ben Kenn, Seedsman, Macaffer, Toovey.

If this list was reduced to 10 players by the start of next season, by trading those that have any currency that we could convert into a first picked player, I don't think that hurts our best team. so far, we have had rumors about Frost, Witts, Seedsman and Kennedy.

Freeman and Goodyear haven't shown me anything yet (and Freeman seems gone), Gault and Abbott are rookies - Cox not considered.

Total of 39 players.

There exists this list was reduced to 10 players by the start of next season by trading those that.

Prefer to keep him but he is not one of the untouchables,

In that I mean, he has his price, if losing him was the difference in getting Treloar for example, you'd do it in a heartbeat