Vic State Election

[stui magpie]

As soon as you provide factual evidence that your assertions are correct.

You have a 1960's view of unions, things have changed.

The biggest change is that union membership has hit record lows across the workforce.

Yep.

Union membership in Australia has been falling steadily over the past four decades. There were just over 1.5 million union members in 2016, compared with just over 2.5 million in 1976. This represents a decline of around 1 million union members or 38 per cent. During the same period union density (the union member share of total employment) has fallen from 51 per cent to 14 per cent.

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament ... Membership

And in that same time, our population has increased by 10 million.

[watt price tully]

As soon as you provide factual evidence that your assertions are correct.

You have a 1960's view of unions, things have changed.

The biggest change is that union membership has hit record lows across the workforce.

Yep.

Union membership in Australia has been falling steadily over the past four decades. There were just over 1.5 million union members in 2016, compared with just over 2.5 million in 1976. This represents a decline of around 1 million union members or 38 per cent. During the same period union density (the union member share of total employment) has fallen from 51 per cent to 14 per cent.

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament ... Membership

And in that same time, our population has increased by 10 million.

....and increasingly workers are being ripped off in the "sub-contract" world as the Unions and Industrial lawyers are trying to advocte. Indeed the hospitality industry is a simple rort of many workers (say hello to George Colombaris and more recently a high end chef).

However Jezza's point is irrelevant to the notion of funding of political parties.

The argument as it were is between arms manafacturers / exporters from the US funding consrvative political parties and the union movement (most not all) funding a political party that the unions created.

[watt price tully]

Well eating that sausage is highly political. Did you put the onions on top of or below the sausage.

Sorry my mistake. This is a state not a federal election

There's some very funny satire on the sausage / onion / Bunnings and Morrison stupidly commenting on it at an international leaders conference in Bali last week, in last weeks "Mad as Hell" episode:

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/shaun-mic ... ad-as-hell

[Pies4shaw]

[stui magpie]

However Jezza's point is irrelevant to the notion of funding of political parties.

The argument as it were is between arms manafacturers / exporters from the US funding consrvative political parties and the union movement (most not all) funding a political party that the unions created.

I'd love you to show some evidence of US Arms manufacturers funding Australian political parties.

A sporting shooters organisation has been running "Not happy Dan" anti labor ad's. They're an industry body and they aren't a political party.

Did they accept money from arms manufacturers to help fund their ads? unclear.

Do they support the Hunters, fishers and farmers party, very likely.

Are they trying to water down gun laws so every one gets guns? Here's the website https://sifa.net.au/ if you can find anything like that, please post it.

[Pies4shaw]

Still 88 in doubt. This is neck and neck.

[stui magpie]

Still 88 in doubt. This is neck and neck.

Well, it's not going to take as long as the draft.

The guys taken in the first round were nearly eligible for free agency by the time it finished.

[Pies4shaw]

Anthony Green is analysing numbers, electorate by electorate. "No clear trends emerging there, yet". "Only a tiny number of votes in, there". Riveting stuff.

Speaking of free agency, Michael Kroger looks like he may be due.

[stui magpie]

7's coverage could be the best of the lot.

They have Kennet, Bracks and Hinch on the panel.

[Pies4shaw]

[Pies4shaw]

[stui magpie]

[Pies4shaw]

The ABC has called 5 seats so far, all for the LNP. if this trend continues, there will be an actual landslide and they will have no opposition. More to follow.

[Pies4shaw]

False alarm. There will be ALP. Members in the Parliament, the ABC says.

[stui magpie]

7 has only called 4 for the LNP.

So much for right wing FTA bias.