Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

^ Do people really want to get rid of Grundy?
I don’t think they do, they just don’t want to pay him $1 million per yr.

Bring him back next week, Fly has said centre clearances are our problem and have slumped since he got injured, todays game showing it too. Bring him back next week, without a doubt we need him.

Bring him back ASAP!!!! We need him badly!

Cox was brilliant again, you can’t drop him.

eddiesmith wrote:Cox was brilliant again, you can’t drop him.

Play Grundy at CHF, interchange with cameron, an cox with ruck duties, as ive heard mentioned on footy panel show.

Ronnie McKeowns boots wrote:Bring him back ASAP!!!! We need him badly!

Yeah, I really like Cameron as a second ruck / resting forward (he might the AFL's best in that role), but he's starting to get exposed as a full time ruck.

I think Cox is a better ruckman than Cameron

Today showed how Important Grundy is as Cameron and Cox are 2nd Rucks at Best

Absolutely smacked silly in the air on a dry day. We need them all.

Must keep Grundy.

Marking ain’t the problem (I50:12-14) their way
Contested (12-14) their way. That’s not bad.
Clearances is our problem. I’m not sure Grundy will miraculously change that. His (hit out to advantage) ain’t that great. Yes he’ll get some clearances but it’s not the ultimate answer. Our mids need to get better. That’s what will change things.

Grundy back in VFL next week after 15 weeks out. Don't be expecting miracles.

He will add considerable value around the ground when he returns- but Cox has improved his ruck work exponentially of late and has much better hands in the aerial battles.

Big T wrote:I think Cox is a better ruckman than Cameron

Definitely, he’s never had much opportunity to show it but today as no1 ruck he led the hitouts for both teams.

The other advantage is he’s a better chance of creating a mismatch floating forward rather than being the target of 2-3 defenders.

I love the tactical options the three of them provide. Cameron gives you more at CHF, and Coxy gives you someone to counter a good tap ruckman and is a huge danger playing deep or up the wing when he has one of those purple patches.

Meanwhile, opposition teams have for ages now done two things against Grundy: rucked two monsters in tandem against him when he had zero support, to wear him down, and also sent out their second or third thug ruckman to injure him. I'm amazed so few people have noticed the latter tactic, which has stood out like proverbial bull terrier knackers. But the bloke just took it and received zero help from anyone, even though by nature he's not a thug.

But that's where the other two come in. First, purely having the support will help him. Then, Cameron is becoming quite a physical beast, even though he had an off day today, while Coxy is awkward, so if they try to rough up Grundy, we now have counter-options.

Don’t think Grundy will “solve” our centre clearances issue. It’s been a problem for many years. Guys like JDG or Carmichael might.

It’s an interesting debate. You can’t dropped Johnson on todays game so who makes way for Grundy. Fly did say it’s hard to come straight in after a 16 week layoff