Australian History X

[stui magpie]

This Wiki article is actually a quite good summary of what happened in Tassie, including the background, the actions and the attempts by the governor of the time to control the situation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_War

As far as the numbers of Tasmanian Aboriginals goes,

Estimates of Tasmania's Aboriginal population in 1803, the year of the first British arrivals, range from 3,000 to 7,000. Lyndall Ryan's analysis of population studies led her to conclude that there were about 7,000 spread throughout the island's nine nations;[68] However, Nicholas Clements, citing research by N.J.B Plomley and Rhys Jones, settled on a figure of 3,000 to 4,000; this number being a more reasonable number when the circumstances of Indigenous life are factored in.

The estimate is that about 1000 Aboriginals were killed and 200 colonists during the conflict. A number of others died when rounded up and interred on nearby islands.

Reading the article I'm struck with the similarities with American settlers moving west and encountering the Native American tribes.

Looking at the past through the lens and filters of the present is always fraught with danger as you can't judge past actions using present day sensibilities, but it was a sorry period in our history.

[Pies4shaw]

The away team seems to have won most of those encounters: https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonial ... es/map.php

[Wokko]

Where are the genocide, the mass graves? There are none.

You don't count Tasmania as part of Australia?

Even on the mainland, there has been many a massacre of indigenous people.

It was war and disease, not genocidal massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_War

*edit* My browser didn't refresh and I missed the other post.

[Wokko]

The away team seems to have won most of those encounters: https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonial ... es/map.php

Lots of one sided wars throughout history; many also lost by the side with the most 'kills' too. Vietnam comes to mind.

[HAL]

Where are the genocide, the mass graves? There are none.

You don't count Tasmania as part of Australia?

Even on the mainland, there has been many a massacre of indigenous people.

It was war and disease, not genocidal massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_War

*edit* My browser didn't refresh and I missed the other post.

Why not?

[David]

[Pi]

The away team seems to have won most of those encounters: https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonial ... es/map.php

I'll take your theory and add a bit to it.
lets look at some body counts ....from say...the ...colonial conquest of India...the one before the British got there....the one that made it easier for them.

https://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-in ... ld-history

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/20 ... n-history/

http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/news/was ... of-hindus/


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/09/ ... orism.html


cant find a Guardian story .... sorry ....

[stui magpie]

[Pies4shaw]

[stui magpie]

But it is to re-write history and teach falsehoods to others

[Pies4shaw]

[Mugwump]

[pietillidie]

^As hyperbolic as a Beds are Burning is, it was a reaction against a good few centuries of genuinely racist ideology which pervaded common thought and institution, and which largely went unquestioned until genuine space for alternative critique was created from, say, the 1970s forward. Further, the racism of those centuries was so thorough, its menace lives on even today even though its original purveyors have long passed on.

So, to get upset by a contemporary over-correction in the light of such genuine racism, when the dominant institutional and academic position assumed rather than critiqued it right up until the 1990s, is to decontextualise the problem. Not too long ago, there was virtually no protest at all; that, it seems, is the vastly greater horror which was, and still should be, the starting point of discussion.

The matter of whether anyone at all can escape history, whether be a colonial racist or a teenage socialist, is quite a different question.

[David]

[stui magpie]