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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:16 pm
by K
GC is (+48 ). Did the spooners last year finish about 12 wins behind the minor premiers?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:31 pm
by TaylorMade
Gold Coast finished 14 games behind, Carlton 16 games behind, this has got me stumped

Why is Collingwood +4 im tring to figure out. Because 15 is good odds

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:36 pm
by TaylorMade
The only thing I can think it would be is that we cant lose more than 1 game. ( +4 points ).

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:38 pm
by TaylorMade
Richmond is +0 so are they trying to say Richmond to go Undefeated and no Draws ( 22-0 ). Odds at 15-1

Collingwood 21-1 ?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:41 pm
by K
You'd think that if they want punters' money, they'd at least explain what it is they're offering.

Yeah, the Rich. (+0) must tell us something, because for minor premiers they offer only $4 (and Melbourne $5, Coll. $7, etc.).

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:43 pm
by TaylorMade
do you think that sounds right? And do you think that is good odds for Collingwood to go 21-1?

2011 we were 20-2

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:44 pm
by K
I cannot imagine Rich. going 22-0. How many wins did they have last season? My gut is not excited by $15 for that.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:48 pm
by TaylorMade
Same, they went 18-4.

Id rather go for Coll minor Prem at 7-1 considering we could win it even though we drop 4-5 games.

If that is what they are offering $15-1 for Us to go 21-1 its not worth it. 2011 we were 20-2 with a defensive minded team.

They games going to be much more open this year for everyone.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:19 am
by TaylorMade
K wrote:I cannot imagine Rich. going 22-0. How many wins did they have last season? My gut is not excited by $15 for that.
If Collingwood does not get many injuries this year then our VFL team will be playing with some serious quality in the side. Can you bet on VFL premierships? because it might be worth while ( Coll AFL+VFL prem multi ) if the odds are upwards of 50-1 that would be a good bet.

Bulldogs and Richmond VFL teams both made the final in 16 and 17.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:19 am
by TaylorMade
K wrote:I cannot imagine Rich. going 22-0. How many wins did they have last season? My gut is not excited by $15 for that.
If Collingwood does not get many injuries this year then our VFL team will be playing with some serious quality in the side. Can you bet on VFL premierships? because it might be worth while ( Coll AFL+VFL prem multi ) if the odds are upwards of 50-1 that would be a good bet.

Bulldogs and Richmond VFL teams both made the final in 16 and 17.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:59 am
by Skids
It's a handicap.

If we win 14 games = 56 , + 4 handicap = 60
If GC win 4 games = 16 , + 48 handicap = 64

etc

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:17 am
by K
But what does that mean, Skids?
What do we need GC (+48 ) to do to collect?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:29 am
by Skids
K wrote:But what does that mean, Skids?
What do we need GC (+48 ) to do to collect?
Have a higher points total (win points + handicap points) than anyone else with the same formula (win points + handicap points).

I haven't seen the market, but if GC are +48 and they win 2 games, their total will be 48 + 8 = 56. If Richmond finish on top with 15 wins, their total will be 60 + 0 = 60.... Richmond beat GC and so on.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:31 am
by K
Okay, Skids. Does that mean the punter chooses two teams, and it's H2H (with handicap) for those two teams?

I don't think it can be... The odds offered are $15. That would be too generous...

For the same reason, it can't be handicap minor premiers... Or is it?
If they try to handicap so all 18 teams can be handicap minor premiers, then every team has 1-in-18 chance. So offering $15 seems fine.
Okay, I guess it is handicap minor premiers.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:42 am
by Skids
K wrote:Okay, Skids. Does that mean the punter chooses two teams, and it's H2H (with handicap) for those two teams?

I don't think it can be... The odds offered are $15. That would be too generous...

For the same reason, it can't be handicap minor premiers... Or is it?
I haven't seen the market, so I don't know.

I'd assume it's an all in market (all teams) and there's one winner with the highest total points (handicap + wins).