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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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Another incident:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 51mvl.html

"Victoria Police has not made any public statement about the alleged assault on Lovepreet Nehal, who was crash-tackled and kicked as he left Brunswick restaurant Cafe 666 on May 7, 2017.

In another case of mistaken identity, Mr Nehal was confronted by two CIRT members pointing a gun and a Taser as he stood outside the restaurant on Sydney Road.

Mr Nehal, 24, received a confidential settlement from Victoria Police.

One CIRT member was charged over the alleged assault, while several others escaped sanction.
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Mr Nehal's head was allegedly smashed into the footpath on at least two occasions.

Then, another officer, who arrived about 10 seconds later, kicked Mr Nehal as he struggled on the ground, according to statements presented at a committal hearing in the Melbourne Magistrates Court last year.

The officer said that he had tried to kick Mr Nehal in the shoulder to prevent him from resisting arrest. He was also unaware Mr Nehal had no involvement with the stolen van."
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i got to be honest, i hate post after post that just has a link and no real opinion or commentary, usually i ignore them, but since my sister just sent me a message about a friend of hers, who is also a cop, that was taken off life support this morning, (not due to violence) my back is a little up.

some light reading for you. nope not victorian, but im too busy to google more, and to me cops are cops.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victor ... 98f977d84b

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-31/ ... ay/7284124

https://www.news.com.au/technology/onli ... 9747e1f2f6

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/three-pu ... b88775293z




seriously who would be a cop? your posts are all terrible, and yes charges should be laid where necessary, but dont paint this as we have a totally corrupt police force, because you are dead wrong. and im still not sure what this has to do with white supremacy. My sister was on duty at the same time, and at the same police station where the 2 cops, Silk and Miller, were killed in Moorabin, She was new to the force, 6 months i think, it could have been her on that patrol route, and she had to stand next to the dead body of her workmate all night and log every person who went near him. where is your damn outrage for that? i got plenty more stories just like this. went to visit her at the station for lunch, had my kids with me, they were just little, one guy there was so nice, funny, in a wheelchair, working on a case. i mentioned to her how nice he was, said he looked very familiar, and did he work along with the police? you can read about him here, surely, he should have retired and lived with full salary and assistance for the rest of his life, but he continued to serve. SERVE.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... hsfeo.html

and by the way, if you ever need one, i hope you dont call one, you know, just in case!!
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seriously, what is it going to take to get a better world? one with compassion, and caring, with not just better police, but better citizens. blame helps noone, for every abuse claim you chuck up, there is an opposite one, or three! but that does no one any good.

instead of citing this shit, come up with solutions.
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David wrote: public trust in the profession won’t improve. It’s as simple as that.
Well said WPT and TP. I just quoted this part as I tend to believe it's a minority who don't trust the Police, and that's for different reasons.

Cops are people.

It's a small minority of Muslims who commit act's of terror, so lets not blame all Muslims but look at the institution

Ditto with Catholic Priests, Police and any other category you like.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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stui magpie wrote:
David wrote: public trust in the profession won’t improve. It’s as simple as that.
Well said WPT and TP. I just quoted this part as I tend to believe it's a minority who don't trust the Police, and that's for different reasons.

Cops are people.

It's a small minority of Muslims who commit act's of terror, so lets not blame all Muslims but look at the institution

Ditto with Catholic Priests, Police and any other category you like.


This, exactly right.

That’s why threads about Muslims, or Christians or the French, the poms, the green people, dinosaurs, you name it, bug me.
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The Police do have some independent oversight, IBAC is one. https://www.ibac.vic.gov.au/home

You refer to Policing of African and Aboriginal minorities, but WPT legitimately points out how gangs of African youths are causing mayhem in some areas. Aboriginal males also have a far higher rate of domestic violence and other crimes. If you were a cop in those areas, you'd be crazy if you didn't racial profile to a degree.

On the flipped side, the victims of said African youth mayhem and Indigenous violence would complain that the cops don't do enough to stop it.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a hard job, some undesirables do get through the filtering process, but in the main they do a great job keeping us safe. With people more and more willing to assault them in the course of their duties, there's going to be some pushback and every now and then, an innocent person will get hurt. It's not ideal and i do feel for the people concerned, but as a percentage of the arrests made in any year, it's a tiny fraction.
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