Coronavirus 5 - Last Blood

[David]

[What'sinaname]

[Pies4shaw]

So, they estimated 2.2 million deaths in the US "In the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behaviour" and you think that somehow means they were "off"?

Where do you source the alt-Nazi US propaganda? I can't imagine you write it yourself.

[What'sinaname]

So, they estimated 2.2 million deaths in the US "In the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behaviour" and you think that somehow means they were "off"?

Where do you source the alt-Nazi US propaganda? I can't imagine you write it yourself.

I don't think anyone was 'off'. David tried to be clever saying Trump was 'off' with the benefit of hindsight. Context and timing is everything.

Remember this little beauty: "We're not going to see, you know, 300s and 400s again in Victoria, not under my watch at least". It was reasonable at the time.

[David]

[Pies4shaw]

Just a little update on how Australia is dealing with Omicron.

The rolling averages of weekly deaths since the start of January (listed newest to oldest) are listed below. I have highlighted in bold the running 7-day totals that are at least twice as high as the highest running 7-day total recorded at any time in 2021. For comparison, that was 107, reached just once - on 23 October 2021.

The figures show that Australia has - every day for more than 5 weeks (38 days and counting), now, recorded a rolling number of weekly deaths that is at least twice as high as anything Australia recorded in any week during 2021.

332 (part progressive 7-day total of deaths for the 7-day period ending on 19v February 2022, as at the time of this post on 19 February 2022)
356
367
366
366
371
392
390
406
442
462
468
489
485
525
537
587
574
610
604
613
568
547
506
489
449
456
435
430
411
374
376
360
309
301
288
259
221
176
145
123
108
92
80
75
79
69
69
69
65 (1 January - 7 day-total of deaths for the 7-day period ending on this day)

[think positive]

The point to take away, really, is that the expression "person with a serious underlying pre-existing medical condition" tends to makes us think of some tiny fraction of the community that we've mostly never met and that are on their last legs, anyway, whereas, in fact, it includes just about every second one of us.

100% this. Dont get the vaccine or wear a mask for yourself, do it for the people you love who are at risk. My hubby, one of my sisters, a brother in law and 2 sister inlaws are at risk. None are on their last legs, none of them are 70 yet, all would be sadly mourned by people who definitely will not see it as well their time was nearly up anyway.

It’s easy when it’s not someone you know. I always think of that road death add when they ask how many deaths are acceptable, they say a number and then their family members come towards them. “Oh god no, none, none are acceptable.

[think positive]

And bloody hell that death table....scary

[Pies4shaw]

^ Just remember, TP: "Delta bad, Omicron good". The pandemic finished last October - the virus just hasn't read the memo.

[stui magpie]

Australian Governments keep opening up further, restrictions are reducing, hospitalisations continue to decline which means deaths will follow in declining.

The vast majority of people are getting on with their lives after 2 years of restrictions and lockdowns which ruined more lives than the virus has.

Yes people have died and will continue to. Yes it's tragic for their family, yes for the rest of us they're anonymous statistics.

maybe no deaths are "acceptable" but what is the legitimate alternative? Remain in lockdown and hope the virus goes away? Clearly the Governments consider the number of deaths to be not unacceptable as they're less than predicted and the benefit has been that vast numbers of people now have the combined immunity from vaccination and recovering from Covid which will help minimse deaths when the next wave hits in winter.

We're lucky that we had the perfect mix of variables happening. Omicron being more infectious but far less deadly, hitting here in summer when the population is also at peak vaccination. I doubt that the dead people's families would agree that we're lucky, but overall we are.

[What'sinaname]

[Pies4shaw]

The thing that's actually disturbing is that you so plainly have never thought that the number of people dying in Australia from the "harmless virus" is disturbing.

Remember Pollyanna posting this in December 2021:

Thankfully scientists / epidemiologists have had their time in the sun and rational people are now making decisions.

All the latest news says Omicron symptoms are mild and hospitalisations are people with muscle ache and fever being teated with cortisone and ibuprofen not treated with oxygen.

Ibuprofen sure looks to have done some damage, since, if it wasn't COVID.

Remember this one, from 1 January 2022:

ICU patients have halved in the last week. While the doom and gloomers will try to tell you the end of the world is nigh, it's not.

When you posted that, there had been 2,253 COVID deaths in Australia through the whole of the pandemic. Since then, there have been well over a further 2,500. Moreover, despite all of those deaths, the number of people in ICU is over 40% higher today than when you posted that.

The funny thing is that you never, ever come back in to say - "Oh, by the way, the rubbish I posted on [insert date] has turned out to be misleading drivel (again)". So, sadly, I have to take time mentioning the actual figures.

[think positive]

[Dave The Man]

With Nurses having Enough and Demanding more Nurses and Support from the Goverment.

IF they Don't could they go on Strike which might set off a Lockdown as be no one to look after the Sick?

[stui magpie]

And bloody hell that death table....scary

But if you look at it, the numbers are definitely following hospitalisations. They're going down. from over 600 at the peak to low 300's.