What are our chances for 2024?

[gurugeoff]

the comp is too even to be confident of winning the premiership, and you need some good fortune at the prelim and granny stage.
That being said, i don't think we have lost anything from last year in regards to list changes. Adams and Ginnavan were borderline best 22 players last year.
We will be a better team than we were last year. Will that be enough, time will tell.

[The Black and White Lion]

Well based on the latest self inflicted news coming out of Melbourne re Joel Smith drug trafficking allegations, sounds like the Dee’s could implode even further this year and we’re going to finish above them at least.
Someone’s going to start asking questions about how long this is all been going on.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/20/ ... rafficking

[gurugeoff]

was watching the 2011 prelim on foxtel last night - a reminder to me of how great that team was - Pendles and Sidey running around, and add Swannie, Daisy, Beams and Ball to that. Jolly in the ruck, Travis and Brown up forward, Andrew Krakeur and Didak, Tarrant and Reid, and they couldn't win it.

so, they are hard to win

[LaurieHolden]

Pies to go back to back.
Just can not see another 2010 and 2011 type of thing happening again.
2024 flag.

We have done it this year but alot more improvement to come in 2024.
kind of in the wheel house for another flag.

Other then that i see both GWS and lions been solid.
can not see blues making it a prelim to be honest.
Would not surprise me that Crows and Swans become the bolters in 2024.

But in 2024 Pies back to back is my tip

23 YIPPEE!!! wrote:Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:53 am
Put simply we are just going through another false dawn we should be used to it
And in 2 years have new coach and regime
It’s catch 22
It’s like it’s 2018 and 2019 all over again
To be honest if sick to death to it

[Take_a_Screamer]

Darcy Moore names the Magpie that’s ready to step up as McStay’s replacement
Collingwood captain Darcy Moore thinks that Ash Johnson is ready to step up in Dan McStay’s absence this campaign after the key forward went down with a pre-season ACL injury.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/26/ ... placement/

Sidebottom lifts the lid on Collingwood’s unique approach in pursuit of back-to-back flags
...While everyone knows that Collingwood’s goal is to win successive premierships, Sidebottom says there’s been no talk about that internally as the Magpies instead focus on one simple message - getting back to work.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/26/ ... t-of-back/

[Take_a_Screamer]

Guys take note...
A few of our players are getting criticized on this forum for their performance in the pre-season games. What's it worth?
What more do you want? The stats that prove Daicos naysayers have no leg to stand on
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/28/ ... no-leg-to/

[lazzadesilva]

I think a lot of the criticism came after the loss to North. Nicksters don’t like losing, especially to teams like North who are not highly rated. It was a reaction of frustration after an unexpected loss. But after the Richmond win, we move on to the real thing. The first game is tough as.

[think better]

Guys take note...
A few of our players are getting criticized on this forum for their performance in the pre-season games. What's it worth?
What more do you want? The stats that prove Daicos naysayers have no leg to stand on
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/28/ ... no-leg-to/

Really liked this article. The way Naicos is increasingly tagged means he needs to win a lot of his own ball against a direct opponent.

[BazBoy]

Adams and Ginny of all the available to play in the grannie for mine were down the choice list & Jack did jack

[LaurieHolden]

The One Percenters 2024 AFL Season Previews: Collingwood
https://www.onepercenters.net.au/p/2024 ... ollingwood

[LaurieHolden]

Own the Moment in 2024
Owning the moments that make Collingwood iconic. However. Wherever. Together.
https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/ ... 9705713001

[LaurieHolden]

the comp is too even to be confident of winning the premiership, and you need some good fortune at the prelim and granny stage.
That being said, i don't think we have lost anything from last year in regards to list changes. Adams and Ginnavan were borderline best 22 players last year.
We will be a better team than we were last year. Will that be enough, time will tell.

Within context of a top 4 finish, ponder if 2 of the 3 top spots are taken by an interstate side in 2024.
While double chances are exactly that, if a position between 3 > 5 is taken by another interstate side, that'll throw the cat amongst the pigeons with respect to home ground advantages for Qualifying and Prelim finals.
One for the trivia statisticians, but what is the most teams from interstate to have played finals in a given year?

[Take_a_Screamer]

Excerpts from the SEN article (follows the Port victory).
Collingwood is evolving?...

Champion Data’s Daniel Hoyne isn’t jumping back onto the Collingwood bandwagon just yet, saying, “We’ve got to see a fair bit more”. Hoyne suggested that change is due to the competition putting plenty of work over the pre-season into figuring out how to dismantle the Pies’ system.

“I think teams have gone to work on them… what I want to do is give a fair bit of praise to this coaching staff to be able to actually adjust on the run and potentially just over pre-season as well knowing, potentially, that this is coming,” Hoyne continued. “They’ve now gone to an absolutely dominant forward half team in the competition, only Carlton are scoring more of the back of their forward half work.

“It’s their ability to be able to capitalise on their forward half turnover game that is so impressive. That’s what they were able to do against Port Adelaide on the weekend… we didn’t really see that component of their game last year, they didn’t need to given how good their ball movement was. “But we are seeing a different Collingwood team and that performance on the weekend was absolutely brutal.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/04/23/ ... -pies-but/

[Take_a_Screamer]

All positive news for Magpies' performance, it seems...

According to Power rankings, we are the 3rd best team at the moment.
1. SYDNEY SWANS (8-1, 151.9%)
2. MELBOURNE (6-3, 121.1%)
3. COLLINGWOOD (5-3-1, 108%)
4. GEELONG (7-2, 124.3%)
5. CARLTON (6-3, 109%)
6. ESSENDON (6-2-1, 98.3%)
7. GWS GIANTS (6-3, 120.7%)
8. PORT ADELAIDE (6-3, 112.2%)

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-20 ... 8a54cbb9ac

And this...

Could Collingwood be better in 2024 than they were in 2023?
While that may sound ridiculous at first thought, considering the Pies lost just five games in 2023 en route to the club’s 16th premiership and that they’re 5-1-3 in 2024 already, their Champion Data profile says otherwise.

Although Collingwood ended up winning the premiership last campaign, according to Champion Data, their best period of last season was in the first ten weeks when they went 9-1 to set up their run at the flag. Across that period, Champion Data rated the Pies as the sixth-best offensive team and sixth-best defensive team.

In 2024 though, Champion Data analyst Daniel Hoyne says that over the last six weeks, the Pies have been the best team in the comp for turning possession into scores while also being the second hardest team in the AFL for opposition clubs to turn their possessions into scores.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/15/ ... 2024-than/

[piedys]

Sure those stats are promising, but one week at a time please; the season is a long one, and a few clubs are learning the hard way: it's an endurance race, not a sprint, to top four...