"Surely your Honour is teasing me?"stui magpie wrote:What do you mean "almost all dead"?
There's more people identifying as Aboriginal now than ever before.
Gun laws in USA??
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No tease at all councillorPies4shaw wrote:"Surely your Honour is teasing me?"stui magpie wrote:What do you mean "almost all dead"?
There's more people identifying as Aboriginal now than ever before.
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... enDocument
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... endocument
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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The mentality of the NRA who own Trump. Arm teachers.
The mentality of the NRA who own Trump. Arm teachers.
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Look, Wokko, I'm not an hysterical anti gun nut. I used to own a small arsenal and am very familiar with guns. (Dad gave me an ex WWII M1 carbine for my 16th birthday) I've travelled in the US and did a mental doubletake every time I saw a sign on an establishment that said "no guns allowed" as Texas gun laws are quite lax.
However, I'm not going to argue about your stats above, because I don't care.
If 2000 people died each year of electrocution trying to f^ck their toaster, I don't care. if, in the future, thousands of people get killed each year because they walked into traffic staring at their phone instead of watching where they were going, I don't care.
When a bunch of innocent people going about their daily business at school, or work, or at a concert, are able to be slaughtered by some imbetard simply because there are tools that allow them to do it easily, with no special knowledge or skill required, I care.
You do not need a semi auto .223 rifle for self defence. %$^, any responsible human wouldn't even think it.
A Shotgun or handgun is all you need to defend your home without killing your neighbours.
Likewise, any hunter who actually has any pride in being a hunter doesn't need a semi auto rifle. I'd take an old Lee enfield or P14 .303, or a lever action 30.06 as a better hunting rifle.
Someone needs to have the balls to set in motion what's needed to either repeal or modify the constitution to insert some common sense. Let the people vote.
However, I'm not going to argue about your stats above, because I don't care.
If 2000 people died each year of electrocution trying to f^ck their toaster, I don't care. if, in the future, thousands of people get killed each year because they walked into traffic staring at their phone instead of watching where they were going, I don't care.
When a bunch of innocent people going about their daily business at school, or work, or at a concert, are able to be slaughtered by some imbetard simply because there are tools that allow them to do it easily, with no special knowledge or skill required, I care.
You do not need a semi auto .223 rifle for self defence. %$^, any responsible human wouldn't even think it.
A Shotgun or handgun is all you need to defend your home without killing your neighbours.
Likewise, any hunter who actually has any pride in being a hunter doesn't need a semi auto rifle. I'd take an old Lee enfield or P14 .303, or a lever action 30.06 as a better hunting rifle.
Someone needs to have the balls to set in motion what's needed to either repeal or modify the constitution to insert some common sense. Let the people vote.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Arming teachers with concealed weapons. If everyone knows they have them why conceal them?
Ok required.
Gun safe for every room. Or have a large one in a staff room and teachers will have to carry.
Advanced training.
Paid armourers to repair and test.
Considerable training and trauma to young kids about what to do when Miss pulls out a gun.
Security guards 24-7 for every school to stop burglaries trying to abtain weapons by those banned from having them.
Purchase of said weapons and ammunition
Ammunition technicians to check condition of bullets.
Refresher training at least annually
Now in very small communities the cost of the guards could be more than the cost of the teachers. This happened after 9-11. Key installations like nuclear power plants had situations where additional police had to be hired to guard them Towns with 3 cops went to 5 where 2 spent 12 hour shifts listening to the radio and eating donuts. Many towns of only 200 people and one assumes the schools were fairly small. I was assessing this as part of my job at Defence when looking at acquisitions and product reviews.
There will be be some religious backlash from say the Amish who will refuse to carry guns. They will have to hire armed guards for every classroom or risk being hit with lawsuits for religious freedom constitutional rights. And they will lose. Also some disabled teachers will be physically incapable of using a weapon. They going to sack them. LawyersRus.
Any nutter intending to commit no good will know they will be facing a threat so will get 2 kills in before the teacher gets to the safe. It is likely the teacher will be the first victim. Hostage taking will become the norm.
Do they arm school bus drivers (shut up kids or the bunny gets it). school crossing supervisors, attendants at school sporting events like College football games which are huge.
How does arming a teacher with a handgun stop a sniper(s) operating from outside the school rooms.
Do they have metal detectors (and paper detectors now) in every entrance to every school. These things are not cheap and require constant monitoring. A school the size of about a 1000 will have hundreds of visitors a day including delivery drivers, parents, medical services, education administrators, Alumni, trades people, sales people, police. Assuming every student and teacher will be scanned the school will have to open an hour earlier (more cost) and visitors hours restricted. Who patrols the cafeteria?
Throwaway lines from Trumps and his mates needs to be met with some rational analysis. Some smart institute ought to cost all this and present, as fact, this to the USA public. Folks your tax bill will go up 3000 per head, your freedoms around schools WILL be infringed and your religious freedoms may also be infringed. Let the friggin NRA argue with logic, something they have yet to face. To pay for all this we propose a 1000 dollar tax be placed on every asault rifle and 10 dollars a bullet. Or we tax petrol, cigarettes and liquor. We also suggest rationalisation small schools to reduce this hideous cost. Farmers can still use shotguns and single shot weapons for vermin control and injured animal shooting.
Fox will go nuts, Trump will dismiss it, the NRA will refute. The US public though may say otherwise. Umm. 12000 dollars a year to pay for this bullshit, I don\t have a gun and our holidays, college funds, and even health care may have to go. Not me Donny
Ok required.
Gun safe for every room. Or have a large one in a staff room and teachers will have to carry.
Advanced training.
Paid armourers to repair and test.
Considerable training and trauma to young kids about what to do when Miss pulls out a gun.
Security guards 24-7 for every school to stop burglaries trying to abtain weapons by those banned from having them.
Purchase of said weapons and ammunition
Ammunition technicians to check condition of bullets.
Refresher training at least annually
Now in very small communities the cost of the guards could be more than the cost of the teachers. This happened after 9-11. Key installations like nuclear power plants had situations where additional police had to be hired to guard them Towns with 3 cops went to 5 where 2 spent 12 hour shifts listening to the radio and eating donuts. Many towns of only 200 people and one assumes the schools were fairly small. I was assessing this as part of my job at Defence when looking at acquisitions and product reviews.
There will be be some religious backlash from say the Amish who will refuse to carry guns. They will have to hire armed guards for every classroom or risk being hit with lawsuits for religious freedom constitutional rights. And they will lose. Also some disabled teachers will be physically incapable of using a weapon. They going to sack them. LawyersRus.
Any nutter intending to commit no good will know they will be facing a threat so will get 2 kills in before the teacher gets to the safe. It is likely the teacher will be the first victim. Hostage taking will become the norm.
Do they arm school bus drivers (shut up kids or the bunny gets it). school crossing supervisors, attendants at school sporting events like College football games which are huge.
How does arming a teacher with a handgun stop a sniper(s) operating from outside the school rooms.
Do they have metal detectors (and paper detectors now) in every entrance to every school. These things are not cheap and require constant monitoring. A school the size of about a 1000 will have hundreds of visitors a day including delivery drivers, parents, medical services, education administrators, Alumni, trades people, sales people, police. Assuming every student and teacher will be scanned the school will have to open an hour earlier (more cost) and visitors hours restricted. Who patrols the cafeteria?
Throwaway lines from Trumps and his mates needs to be met with some rational analysis. Some smart institute ought to cost all this and present, as fact, this to the USA public. Folks your tax bill will go up 3000 per head, your freedoms around schools WILL be infringed and your religious freedoms may also be infringed. Let the friggin NRA argue with logic, something they have yet to face. To pay for all this we propose a 1000 dollar tax be placed on every asault rifle and 10 dollars a bullet. Or we tax petrol, cigarettes and liquor. We also suggest rationalisation small schools to reduce this hideous cost. Farmers can still use shotguns and single shot weapons for vermin control and injured animal shooting.
Fox will go nuts, Trump will dismiss it, the NRA will refute. The US public though may say otherwise. Umm. 12000 dollars a year to pay for this bullshit, I don\t have a gun and our holidays, college funds, and even health care may have to go. Not me Donny
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Hilarious that anyone with a sound mind thinks more people with guns makes everyone safer. Only in America. The NRA are correct, the media love mass shootings but the NRA love mass shootings as well as they see an increase in gun sales. Nothing will change over there, already the rhetoric is changing. Now the right wing nutters are saying the school kids protesting are paid actors. That's the way they roll.
