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Unless something drastically changes regional Victoria needs to be released from these lock down measures and a ring of blue put in place around greater Melbourne when the government inevitably announces an extension to the lock down period.
In the region I live we've never had more than an occasional COVID case detected throughout the entire pandemic and forcing businesses to close, people to lose income or jobs without the safety net of Jobkeeper or relaxed eligibility to receive Jobseeker isn't sustainable or indeed warranted at present.
stui magpie wrote:I have no idea. the early advice from DoH was 5, then at the presser I gather they said we have found 6 more since then.
Either it's 11 today or it's 5 today and tomorrow starts as 6 plus whatever they find overnight.
I guess there really should be a cut off time for when numbers are counted against a particular day that is consistently applied.
There is, it's midnight but then sometimes the government chooses to mention cases they've heard about before the press conference but aren't actually counted in the tally.
So the official tally for today is 5 and tomorrow will be at least 6.
swoop42 wrote:Unless something drastically changes regional Victoria needs to be released from these lock down measures and a ring of blue put in place around greater Melbourne when the government inevitably announces an extension to the lock down period.
In the region I live we've never had more than an occasional COVID case detected throughout the entire pandemic and forcing businesses to close, people to lose income or jobs without the safety net of Jobkeeper or relaxed eligibility to receive Jobseeker isn't sustainable or indeed warranted at present.
Yep, where I lived last year we had 1 case in April 2020, that's it for the entire pandemic. Yet was constantly under restrictions, solely because Geelong had an outbreak last year and this year the Government has decided it's easier to punish the entire state than have seperate restrictions anymore.
The problem is they are of the belief that if they can't set up a ring of marshmallows to fine people then it's pointless. Yet every other state had localised lockdowns without needing to set up police roadblocks and it never spread...
Guess it's the Fine State mentality, much like the mask rules are based solely around ease of fining people rather than any actual health advice.
If Regional Victoria is under restrictions on Friday I'll be finding Mr Merlino's press conference...
The problem is, Victoria is geographically a small state compared to most others. Last year when Melbourne Metro was locked down and regional victoria was open, the ring of chicken wire didn't prevent everyone who could heading out.
The risk factor here is that Melbourne people will head bush and take the virus with them. The Sydney Northern Beaches outbreak was different, most of those people didn't stray that far from home whereas the buggers in this current cluster appear to be competitive shoppers. The number of exposure sights is nearing the point it would be easier to list the places that aren't exposure sights.
The fact that contact tracers still haven't been able to identify the missing link between Woolert man and this cluster is a worry, as is the newest cases with missing links.
If this keeps going I may have to enact the escape plan but I'll hold back and see how it goes. A week or 2 I can do, I'm not doing 3 months again.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
The political morons - not talking one party or another here, they are all doing it - are now "discussing" making vaccination compulsory for aged-care workers. Far bloody out! These turkeys are so far out of bloody touch you couldn't tag them with space laser.
It is perfectly bloody simple. Every job in the universe has its requirements. If you turn up to the building site not wearing your hard hat and your safety boots, you get sent home. No pay, you just get told not to be so bloody stupid. If you turn up to the tram depot drunk, you get sacked on the spot. If you turn up to the age care centre without your vaccination, you should be sent home just as promptly.
No excuses. You are risking people's lives. If you don't want to wear a hard hat, don't apply for work as a builder. If you don't want to get vaccinated, piss off and get some other job.
In public health in Vic, front line staff can (or at least could, may have changed) be stood down without pay if they refused a flu vacc. This is just slightly worse than flu so if you want to be a conscientious objector, do it at home with no money.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
I’m not taking sides either but after Barajiklians export of the virus earlier this year with the South Australian Liberal Government export now seems like Victoria has to clean up again.
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman
[quote="watt price tully"]I’m not taking sides either but after Barajiklians export of the virus earlier this year with the South Australian Liberal Government export now seems like Victoria has to clean up again.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
My understanding, Stui, is that one stupid porker got sick a week or so after getting out of quarantine, decided it was "just a cold" and carried on infecting all and sundry for three or four days. Not sure where I read that, probably here.
Fair understanding, and no criticism of the much maligned individuals doing contact tracing who are busting a nut to chase stuff down, something can't be right with the system when 1 case turns into this mess so quickly.
Other states have had leakage, this is next level and only seems to happen in Victoria.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Tannin wrote:My understanding, Stui, is that one stupid porker got sick a week or so after getting out of quarantine, decided it was "just a cold" and carried on infecting all and sundry for three or four days. Not sure where I read that, probably here.
Not quite, confused the two cases there.
The bloke out of quarantine was out for a couple of days, got sick, got tested and immediately isolated. He attending Woolworths Epping North before getting symptoms but contact tracers put down the wrong Woolworths.
Case 5 here, who is now the first known case of this cluster went out for a week spreading the virus before getting tested. He also attended Woolworths Epping North.
Now what the authorities are yet to find is the link between the 2, because the bloke in quarantine was in quarantine before the other guy visited Woolies.
stui magpie wrote:Fair understanding, and no criticism of the much maligned individuals doing contact tracing who are busting a nut to chase stuff down, something can't be right with the system when 1 case turns into this mess so quickly.
Other states have had leakage, this is next level and only seems to happen in Victoria.
What Read and Heard that Contract Tracing Game wrong Wollies that where the Person had been so people who been to the Other think they are Fine and go out and about doing there things.
Professor Scotty from Marketing is responsible for the aged care f*ck up big time:
This is incredibly stupid and dangerously negligent by The Feds: They are allowing staff under the Federal Jurisdiction to work across multiple sites (Aged Care Facilities etc)
He’s doing his job, unlike Danny boy who has disappeared off the face of the planet after his drunken antics
The aged care thing will hopefully be a very convenient deflection for the state, because so far it’s resulted in 1 case in another site after the 3rd site came back all negative and already come out of their lockdown.
