Post match. Pies thumped by Port. All comments please.

[Gonzalo]

As for Port - they only played one of Ryder and Lobbe last year - Ryder.

So put a line through Lobbe.

Mofries is their best Crumbing Forward? I thought he was a small marking forward? What about Wingard? He's second best is he? Joke.

So in reality they would have;

Ryder or Lobbe, Monfries, Schulz and Hombsch would be the ones missing from their best 22, and I wouldn't have Jonas there ahead of Hombsch.

White came Top 10 in their B&F when they made the Top 4 and is a crucial player for them. You need to watch other teams because your knowledge is questionable.

[jackcass]

OK, but no need to slag the coach after being a Nicks poster for five minutes, this has been happening far too much on here lately,by newbies, who don't seem to realise we have the most massive injury list in the League, along with the Lions, who also are really struggling to find form.

Ok I apologise to the bloggers who think new posters should be careful.... and I understand that sort of manners. I think the issue is far further up-line than our injury list....I am with those who are questioning Buckley's competencies as an experienced blogger posted recently.

with our massive injuries, not even jock McHale would make much diference now, we never have a settled side, never. Bucks will be judged by our performances by seasons end, not by us, the Board will take a long and hard look at him, so lest leave it there.

I always find it amusing that injuries are a valid consideration for any other team than Collingwood with all bar a few commentators and it's the same with posters it seems. Only Saturday night the Ch7 commentators were so understanding about Freo's struggles because they were missing Fyfe, Sandi and Johnson... Oh woe is me, poor buggers, they were a leading premiership contender, we're a roughy to sneak into the 8 if things go well for us.

[Daniel]

White came top 10 in 2014 for PA?

I'll tell you who came top 10 in our best and fairest in 2014 and wasn't on the field today.

- Elliott
- Goldsack
- Travis Cloke (turned to shit)

[Daniel]

No, only injuries to Collingwood players count.

Who the opposition has unavailable is irrelevant.

You and Giz should share a room.

IMV our best 22:

Howe Frost Ramsay
Adams Reid Langdon

Varcoe Treloar Sidebottom

Elliott Moore Fasolo
Blair Cox Swan

Grundy Pendlebury DeGoey

Crisp Williams Scharenberg Greenwood

4? Depending on your opinion - I see 9 starting 22 missing.

That's nearly 1/2 of our side!

Ramsay, Adams, Langdon - that's 1/2 of our backline.

Elliott, Moore, Fasolo and Swan is most of our forward line.

You must see a completely different starting 22 to me.

And Port had 7 of their best 22 missing. All things being equal, I don't see an 11 goal turnaround.

I think you've been sharing a room with yourself for too long.

Care to mention who those 7 are and whom they would replace?

[jackcass]

DP

[Gonzalo]

White came top 10 in 2014 for PA?

I'll tell you who came top 10 in our best and fairest in 2014 and wasn't on the field today.

- Elliott
- Goldsack
- Travis Cloke (turned to shit)

Goldsack isn't injured so you can't include him and he is no longer a best 22 player.

White to Port is a very important player. He has speed and he has line breaking ability. When fit, he is one of the first picked at Port.

[GoWoodsmen]

Not too much good in that. The best was the return of Sinclair, who was excellent. Is there anyone who still claims that he is a poor kick and turnover prone? There's nothing to support this. Calm under pressure, used the ball well and often. Of the others I could probably only mention Reid as being good, Pendlebury was ok but made too many mistakes for his standards and Treloar was pretty good.

Overall though, this wasn't about individual players. We lacked run all over the park. I've been saying all season we are a poor running team and today we were terrible against a very good running team in the Power. We missed our chances and struggled badly up forward due to lack of smalls, but it's the running dominance that told out. Cloke wasn't great but gave a contest and put in an effort.

Get real, I watched Sinclair turn it over a number of times today, which game were you watching!

78% efficiency.... 8/10 made it to his intended target.... you might need to get real!

[Daniel]

As for Port - they only played one of Ryder and Lobbe last year - Ryder.

So put a line through Lobbe.

Mofries is their best Crumbing Forward? I thought he was a small marking forward? What about Wingard? He's second best is he? Joke.

So in reality they would have;

Ryder or Lobbe, Monfries, Schulz and Hombsch would be the ones missing from their best 22, and I wouldn't have Jonas there ahead of Hombsch.

White came Top 10 in their B&F when they made the Top 4 and is a crucial player for them. You need to watch other teams because your knowledge is questionable.

White never came top 10 in Port's best and fairest in 2014. Please prove me otherwise.

[Daniel]

White came top 10 in 2014 for PA?

I'll tell you who came top 10 in our best and fairest in 2014 and wasn't on the field today.

- Elliott
- Goldsack
- Travis Cloke (turned to shit)

Goldsack isn't injured so you can't include him and he is no longer a best 22 player.

White to Port is a very important player. He has speed and he has line breaking ability. When fit, he is one of the first picked at Port.

Goldsack has had 2 weeks in the VFL to regain fitness after being injured most of the past 18 months.

Yes I can include him, because you ridiculously included White, who you claimed came top 10 in Port's B&F in 2014, when he didn't.

So as you brought up who came in the top 10 B&F, I think it's important to point out that Goldsack came 8th in ours.

[jackcass]

Pendles played a poor game today, lots of errors.

Agree. Add Sidey to that, Ebert won that battle.

[Gonzalo]

White came top 10 in 2014 for PA?

I'll tell you who came top 10 in our best and fairest in 2014 and wasn't on the field today.

- Elliott
- Goldsack
- Travis Cloke (turned to shit)

Goldsack isn't injured so you can't include him and he is no longer a best 22 player.

White to Port is a very important player. He has speed and he has line breaking ability. When fit, he is one of the first picked at Port.

Goldsack has had 2 weeks in the VFL to regain fitness after being injured most of the past 18 months.

Yes I can include him, because you ridiculously included White, who you claimed came top 10 in Port's B&F in 2014, when he didn't.

So as you brought up who came in the top 10 B&F, I think it's important to point out that Goldsack came 8th in ours.

Goldsack started the year in the VFL and wasn't considered part of our best 22 for the majority of time before he injured his knuckle before Anzac Day. He is no longer a best 22 player, he is just a fringe player now.

[Cam]

[Doc63]

You and Giz should share a room.

IMV our best 22:

Howe Frost Ramsay
Adams Reid Langdon

Varcoe Treloar Sidebottom

Elliott Moore Fasolo
Blair Cox Swan

Grundy Pendlebury DeGoey

Crisp Williams Scharenberg Greenwood

4? Depending on your opinion - I see 9 starting 22 missing.

That's nearly 1/2 of our side!

Ramsay, Adams, Langdon - that's 1/2 of our backline.

Elliott, Moore, Fasolo and Swan is most of our forward line.

You must see a completely different starting 22 to me.

And Port had 7 of their best 22 missing. All things being equal, I don't see an 11 goal turnaround.

I think you've been sharing a room with yourself for too long.

Care to mention who those 7 are and whom they would replace?

Ryder, Jonas, Homsch, Monfries, White would all probably be in their best side (OK that's only 5).

The point is, most sides have multiple injuries - its not an excuse for a pathetic performance like today, or winning only 6 of our last 21 games.

[Daniel]

Would you like to answer where you found White finished in Port's B&F in 2014 first?

Goldsack has had problems with tendonitis in his knees last year and this year, on the back of a limited preseason.

Given 2014, he was in our top 10 in the B&F, unlike White of PA, I don't know why you assume he is not in our best 22 as coaches rated him to be in our best 10 when fit.

[Gonzalo]