2022 Trade Period. (COMPLETED)

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Cam wrote:Methinks the big deals possibly won't happen until Wednesday... all stage managed.
Been like this since 2018 when the trade deadline was on Wednesday evening rather than on Thursday at 2pm.
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Podpicken wrote:Honestly, Rendell is an arse clown! https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/10/10/ ... pies-says/
Rendell always sounds like he's on the turps :lol:
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Cam wrote:Methinks the big deals possibly won't happen until Wednesday... all stage managed.
Given the biggest trade in AFL history happened today, I think you're wrong.
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From Mitch Cleary:
Four-way deal done:

NM
In: 2, 3, 40, 43, F1 (PA)
Out: JHF, 1, F3 (Freo)

PA
In: JHF, Rioli, F2 (Coll), F3 (Freo)
Out: 8, 43, 53, 57, F1 (PA), F2 (PA), F3 (PA)

WCE
In: 8, 12, F2 (PA), F3 (PA)
Out: Rioli, 2, 40

GWS
In: 1, 53, 57
Out: 3, 12, F2 (Coll)
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Post by Charlie Oneeye »

Our Dominoes are next... falling tomorrow I reckon.

Or Nothing lol
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I’m sure those and others may interest

But I’ll save my interest for Pie bound persons and who leaves us and how we improve from it all
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Charlie Oneeye wrote:Our Dominoes are next... falling tomorrow I reckon.

Or Nothing lol
At least 1 Trade would get done.

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Post by Marvelos »

Grundy and 16 for 13 and 27 is fair IMO.
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Marvelos wrote:Grundy and 16 for 13 and 27 is fair IMO.
Unders I reckon, but now probably the best we can hope for.
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Post by 58pie »

Collingwood threatens to hang on to Grundy. Reported in The Age. Get better than the dees are offering or keep Brodie. Go Pies
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Post by Pies2016 »

The state of play with two days to go and why I wouldn’t be too concerned just yet.

Collingwood current draft hand - 16, 41, 50, 51.
Collingwood 2023 draft hand - future first rounder, future third rounder

Player acquisitions completed - Hill for future second rounder and McStay was no trade required.
Possible players to be acquired - The press are saying a mid to late second rounder gets the Mitchell deal done. The Suns want a future second ( or maybe third ) rounder for Fiorini and the Crows we’re looking for a future third rounder for Frampton.

Collingwood trade outs still to be done - Grundy and possibly Henry.
Let’s consider a conservative trade of Grundy + pick 41 = pick 27 + Dees future second rounder ( tied to Freo and that likely translates to low thirties in a strong draft ) I will exclude Henry for now because there’s too much uncertainty to consider the outcome.

This would leave us with pick 27 to secure Mitchell ( if that’s what the club wants ) a future third rounder we already have for Frampton and a newly acquired second rounder from the Dees ( tied to Freo ) for Fiorini. All this can be done without involving Henry but is subject to cap restrictions and the press being on the money about our targets.

So potentially we could end up losing Grundy, pick 27 + our future second and third rounders out = McStay, Hill, Frampton, Mitchell and Fiorini all in.
Draft hand would be 16, 50 and 51 and our future first rounder remains intact.
If you don’t like Mitchell or Fiorini, then just send the picks back to Collingwood and redo the sums. If you want to be greedy, then add more for the Grundy trade. If you don’t think Grundy goes, then redo the sums with him staying ( but also with an impact on our salary cap )
Either way, I don’t see any reason to be putting the cue in the rack just yet.
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My mail is that Melbourne and Collingwood have had an agreement for some time now. No one is bending anyone over a barrel. But I've also heard that very recently Grundy has flipped and is desperate to stay at the club. Who knows?

Frampton looking likely.

Fiorini looking less likely.

Mitchell looking like it depends on Grundy.

No links to any of the GWS players.

Henry looking like no deal.

I guess anything can still happen. There's 2 days of trade to go.
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Post by slangman »

Nothing matters more than Collingwood not getting screwed in the Henry and Grundy potential trades.
Although I would love both of them to stay (Henry more so), I also understand the trading environment.
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Post by scoobydoo »

Presti35 wrote:My mail is that Melbourne and Collingwood have had an agreement for some time now. No one is bending anyone over a barrel. But I've also heard that very recently Grundy has flipped and is desperate to stay at the club. Who knows?
I’ve never heard two clubs both be so adamant about where a player will be next year. Both clubs have consistently said he’ll be playing for Melb next yr.

Also, if you think Collingwood is going to hand hawthorn the draft pk they receive from Melb for Grundy, then why would they care if it’s 25 or 21??
I doubt that would be the stumbling block to get Mitchell.
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I think it's more the cap than the pick
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