Post inauguration Trump:

Post by **David** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:49 pm

Oh good lord. I'm not sure where the irony stops and the actual idolisation of a senile 73-year-old guy in a baseball cap begins!

pietillidie · Post by **pietillidie** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:43 pm

Post by **stui magpie** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:13 pm

^

My perception from afar, FWIW, is that 2 things are going for him.

1. The USA has a recent history of giving 2 terms.
2. The Democrats have done nothing to present a positive case for election. They spend soo much time carping about Trump first getting elected then everything else, I believe everyone except the staunchest will be getting Democarp fatigue.

Plus, take out the constant sideshow and (again ony as far as I understand it) the economic numbers are good. Jobs are up, particularly in blue collar areas which is his base.

IMHO unless the Democrats find someone who can send a strong positive message for the future, they might as well not bother.

pietillidie · Post by **pietillidie** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:22 pm

^I get that view, but the economics are increasingly under pressure as the sugar high wears off and costs kick in (global trade instability, debt and social spending deficits), while moderates tend to care about stability and balance by definition. It would have to be a really poor candidate to impede a serious swing, which is not to say the Democrats aren't doing their best to engineer such a candidate.

Also, Trump himself is becoming more unstable and senile, so the campaign spotlight will not be as favourable and the novelty of Trump won't sway moderates this time around. He is not a normal candidate by any definition, so a single term shouldn't surprise.

Then again, corporate handouts are extremely difficult to overcome in the best of circumstances, and we are dealing here with dream corporate handouts in the country of Citizens United v. FEC. It also took two terms for the full disaster that was George W. to sink in, which does support the persistence of the two term rule.

pietillidie · Post by **pietillidie** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:21 am

Pinker on what quid pro quos look like to the reasonable and sane:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/opin ... ensky.html

pietillidie · Post by **pietillidie** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:22 am

The Onion on the Grovelling Old Poltroons: https://politics.theonion.com/gop-lawma ... 1838885386

Skids · Post by **Skids** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:13 pm

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/u ... aign=1600d

Post by **David** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:18 pm

Did you actually read that? I drifted off sometime after the first paragraph.

Skids · Post by **Skids** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:57 pm

David wrote:Did you actually read that? I drifted off sometime after the first paragraph.

yeah, me too!

Wokko · Post by **Wokko** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:58 pm

I didn't read it all but it seems perfectly reasonable. Why would anyone indulge a kangaroo court? Especially if they're the President of the United States.

**** Schiff and Pelosi, let them hoist themselves and their candidate with their own petard.

3.14159 · Post by **3.14159** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:18 pm

Kangaroo courts aren't mentioned in the US Constitution but Impeachment certainly is! Legally Vacuous and totally Unconstitutional the best description of that Whitehouse letter! If the WH has nothing to hide why does it not want these witnesses to appear?
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watc ... 0890565531

Further to that, you have to wonder why Trump is so adamant the Russians didn't interfere in the last election (and is continuing to try and hack the 20-20 election) when even Republicans in the Senate see this as an urgent issue that must be dealt with rather than really on Trump's statement that the Russia couldn't have done it ("why would they?" he famously once said in-front of the world press) because Putin told Trump "he didn't!"?

http://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/se ... 0894149607

Btw, support for the impeachment inquiry has now topped 50% of all Americans in just 3 weeks. Contrast that with Nixons rating at the start of the Watergate inquiry was 17%.
Take into consideration that Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and apart for alienating nearly everone that isn't in that 34% MAGA Base (and he has done little to gather new voters for 20-20) Trump is in big trouble!!!

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:18 am

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-a ... 5300b.html

Oh, dear.

Wokko · Post by **Wokko** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:39 pm

He can fire an ambassador because he doesn't like their tie if he wants to.

pietillidie · Post by **pietillidie** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:37 pm

Here's a first: an Australian politician defending the Australian economy against Trump's devaluation of the globe in order to artificially turn the US into a capital safe haven and boost its leverage. It doesn't matter if you hate this person; he's in very good company and they're right:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/11/opin ... trade.html

Of course, what they don't say is that the deranged narcissist and his cronies are literally oppressing the globe and devaluing the wealth of billions of people through this move.

I'm sure Trump's virtual Australian fan club will find reason to praise their dear imaginary leader for devaluing their wealth and threatening their prosperity.

Perhaps the fawning Morrison can reassure everyone its all part of the lord's plan as he jostles with bin Salman and Bolsonaro for a Man of Steel medallion from Trump, following in Little Johnny's footsteps. (We all know how well that turned out for Captain Wasteful's legacy).

Skids · Post by **Skids** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:29 pm

pietillidie wrote:Here's a first: an Australian politician defending the Australian economy against Trump's devaluation of the globe in order to artificially turn the US into a capital safe haven and boost its leverage. It doesn't matter if you hate this person; he's in very good company and they're right:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/11/opin ... trade.html

Of course, what they don't say is that the deranged narcissist and his cronies are literally oppressing the globe and devaluing the wealth of billions of people through this move.

I'm sure Trump's virtual Australian fan club will find reason to praise their dear imaginary leader for devaluing their wealth and threatening their prosperity.

Perhaps the fawning Morrison can reassure everyone its all part of the lord's plan as he jostles with bin Salman and Bolsonaro for a Man of Steel medallion from Trump, following in Little Johnny's footsteps. (We all know how well that turned out for Captain Wasteful's legacy).

You'll be disappointed, yet again, Trump has made great progress and struck a nice deal with China.

No 3rd world war, no economic meltdown, record employment, number 1 economy in the world... I wonder how all that egg on all those faces is tasting?

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