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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:13 pm
by Brenny
Joel wrote:Settle down guys, he is just saying the standard crap that his
"management" has told him to say.

I'm more disappointed that the interview occurred at all. We learnt zero, and just come across as pressure from the Cloke camp. The second fail interview in 2 years on the footy show when it comes to us.
What we learnt was it doesn't bother him that what he is asking could potentially affect us keeping players at the club.

That he was hell bent on 5 yrs and 4 would need substantial changes and that he has had an offer of approx $1m.

Fairly informative if you ask me.

Stui: he was asked a simple yes or no question. He answered it with 'I'd like to'.

He might stay, but I'm not so confident.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:14 pm
by AnthonyC
Deflection, I don't like the sound of it.

He is within his rights to ask for as much as he can, the delay does not bode well though.

Re: Yes

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:16 pm
by pablo
Hiss wrote:
pablo wrote:I am really disappointed in Cloke.

Completely selfish. Pretty disgusting...

Honestly think there is scope to save the $800k and get a couple of free agents for $400k each who want to win a premiership.
You are a disgrace and a troll. Go back to Carlton.

Hiss, you tool!!! Am I a troll because you have made a fool of yourself....again? Trying to deflect are we? You sad little man.
Give me a break.

Oh, and I am a Club 5 member. Quite an investment for a Carlton troll!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:16 pm
by Joel
Brenny wrote:
Joel wrote:Settle down guys, he is just saying the standard crap that his
"management" has told him to say.

I'm more disappointed that the interview occurred at all. We learnt zero, and just come across as pressure from the Cloke camp. The second fail interview in 2 years on the footy show when it comes to us.
What we learnt was it doesn't bother him that what he is asking could potentially affect us keeping players at the club.

That he was hell bent on 5 yrs and 4 would need substantial changes and that he has had an offer of approx $1m.

Fairly informative if you ask me.

Stui: he was asked a simple yes or no question. He answered it with 'I'd like to'.

He might stay, but I'm not so confident.

We knew all of that already.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:16 pm
by piepower
I'd like to stay, not i want to stay. just f--k off so we can sign the players who want to be part of our great club. sick oh this shit , you greedy bastard.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:18 pm
by pablo
piepower wrote:I'd like to stay, not i want to stay. just f--k off so we can sign the players who want to be part of our great club. sick oh this shit , you greedy bastard.
I'm with you.

Travis Cloke: "Bugger off D Beams, I am more important than you"

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:19 pm
by mattys123
If you missed the interview tonight, don't even bother watching it, you will learn nothing new from it, just the standard lines of "I want to stay at the club" and "There's still a few things to be worked out".

He is as likely to stay as he has ever been, which for me is about 80%.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:19 pm
by Adz
Time for a Hiss to be banned for a months. Mods I want action!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:19 pm
by AN_Inkling
Black_White wrote:Holding firm on 5 years.
Holding the club to ransom.
Not a good look.
Why is it one way and not the other?

A 5 year deal would reduce the strain on our salary cap, with the dollars being spread over a longer period.

Why does the club not want to show loyalty with a 5 year deal?

Is the club holding Cloke to ransom, knowing he doesn't want to leave?

There's many ways this can be read. It's a negotiation, with both sides looking for a particular outcome. It's impossible to say who is most responsible for it dragging out. The most likely scenario, as I see it, is that both parties want the deal done and that (on the club side in particular) the main reason it's taking so long is that for the final clauses to be put in place, certainty is needed about the full picture (other signings for instance).

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:22 pm
by Brenny
Joel wrote:
Brenny wrote:
Joel wrote:Settle down guys, he is just saying the standard crap that his
"management" has told him to say.

I'm more disappointed that the interview occurred at all. We learnt zero, and just come across as pressure from the Cloke camp. The second fail interview in 2 years on the footy show when it comes to us.
What we learnt was it doesn't bother him that what he is asking could potentially affect us keeping players at the club.

That he was hell bent on 5 yrs and 4 would need substantial changes and that he has had an offer of approx $1m.

Fairly informative if you ask me.

Stui: he was asked a simple yes or no question. He answered it with 'I'd like to'.

He might stay, but I'm not so confident.

We knew all of that already.
We did, but hearing it out of the horses mouth, confirms it a bit more than hearing it from Caro or a manager.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:22 pm
by Nick - Pie Man
Collingwood 4 eternity wrote:Certain people that work at the club are then scrutinized as to wether it happened or not.
You are talking out of your backside???

I don't know who you are keyboard warrior but if you seriously called the club to find out whether a complete stranger got money back on his legends membership because you read about it on the internet and decided you didn't like it - you need help.

Give these people a call

http://www.lifeline.org.au/

And tell them how mean Nick - Pie Man is :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:23 pm
by Nick - Pie Man
Perhaps it is a good thing that you don't believe I got any money back. I wouldn't want to raise a stink at the club over three hundred bucks.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:25 pm
by Beast
This appearance on TFS will only increase the speculation and have the negative impact on our club.
Fancy implying he hasn't thought that other players might get squeezed out due to his demands?
Appalling behaviour.
Just between me and you, that whole family is very very strange to say the least.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:26 pm
by eddiesmith
AN_Inkling wrote:
Black_White wrote:Holding firm on 5 years.
Holding the club to ransom.
Not a good look.
Why is it one way and not the other?

A 5 year deal would reduce the strain on our salary cap, with the dollars being spread over a longer period.

Why does the club not want to show loyalty with a 5 year deal?

Is the club holding Cloke to ransom, knowing he doesn't want to leave?

There's many ways this can be read. It's a negotiation, with both sides looking for a particular outcome. It's impossible to say who is most responsible for it dragging out. The most likely scenario, as I see it, is that both parties want the deal done and that (on the club side in particular) the main reason it's taking so long is that for the final clauses to be put in place, certainty is needed about the full picture (other signings for instance).
Don't dare use reason around this place, its Public Enemy no1 v the Great Collingwood Football Club, no way anyone could blame the club...

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:27 pm
by Adz
Beast wrote:This appearance on TFS will only increase the speculation and have the negative impact on our club.
Fancy implying he hasn't thought that other players might get squeezed out due to his demands?
Appalling behaviour.
Just between me and you, that whole family is very very strange to say the least.
I think Trav is the most sane bunch of the lot!