#2 Jordan De Goey

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warburton lad wrote:When two St Kilda players were being investigated several years back- I was of the opinion that they were entitled to the presumption of innocence.

With Jordan De Goey, the same applies.

I have no idea whether he is guilty of either or both events suggested on-line today. Like the St Kilda players, he is entitled to the presumption of innocence unless and until a Court finds otherwise.

Even if he got 12 months jail time in the United States, it would not preclude him from making a comeback in the AFL (Andy Krakouer/Marlion Pickett) to name two players who have successfully done so in the recent past.

Whether it would be for Collingwood is a matter for another time and place.
I am glad that the Club has been decisive about this. IfI were Jordan De Goey, I would use the time away from official duties at the Club to continue to train his guts out in the United States in the hope that he is not found guilty- or- at the very least- given probation rather than face a custodial sentence.

Other than television, I have no sense of how the American legal system works. De Goey currently has no convictions against his name so, one would expect that he would front court in the expectation that he may receive a degree of leniency.

No doubt the Mark Robinsons of this world will have their poison pens out tonight and list a litany of 'off-field issues' regarding Collingwood from the past 30 years on the back and front pages of the Herald-Sun in the morning.

Unless the paper runs with the sad death of Bert Newton instead...
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Being careful as alleged rather than proven charges in a court of law. But if guilty, I would rather take the wooden spoon than continue to condone this type of culture at our club. I hope he is not guilty, but the club needs to draw a line in the sand that it will not be drawn into this disrepute by anyone who holds themselves above the repute of tha club and their contribtion to the team.
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Jezza wrote:Club has stood him down indefinitely.

https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status ... 4086282245
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It's not hanging, it's over.

Just another idiot that can kick a football.
Will be in the slammer for a while to ponder his future.

Not the first and won't be the last. Pity, wasn't a bad player.
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The complaints ( US female & male) will be part of court hearings and in a club full of other US citizens & out on a dance floor one would expect the incident was seen and possibly statements taken by law enforcement officers
of bystanders

The Australian pair will need some legal reprisentation
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BazBoy wrote:The complaints ( US female & male) will be part of court hearings and in a club full of other US citizens & out on a dance floor one would expect the incident was seen and possibly statements taken by law enforcement officers
of bystanders

The Australian pair will need some legal reprisentation
Plus, video footage will be available one would assume.
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BazBoy wrote:The complaints ( US female & male) will be part of court hearings and in a club full of other US citizens & out on a dance floor one would expect the incident was seen and possibly statements taken by law enforcement officers
of bystanders

The Australian pair will need some legal reprisentation
I would imagine they would be contacting the Australian consulate. They will either have local legal representatives on the books. Or they will have court appointed representatives. Or the club will find someone.
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Being of means i would imagine the boys will be stumping up the cash.
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And so they should pay their councillors
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The problem here is that he has had multiple chances and it just makes the club look stupid now. No other option and this sets the standard for Culture at the club going forward and hard to see him in B and W again.
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I would have thought there would be a clause in AFL player contracts that lets the club terminate the contract if the player is found guilty of a criminal offense ??
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princem007 wrote:The problem here is that he has had multiple chances and it just makes the club look stupid now. No other option and this sets the standard for Culture at the club going forward and hard to see him in B and W again.
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It is such a bad look for a club that has had enough bad press in the last twelve months to last a decade.

I bet Craig is loving this in his first few months. He would be apoplectic.

I would imagine his messaging to the players would have been...we just finished second last on the ladder. So heads down and get to work this off-season.

I get the feeling Jordy may be made an example of, to set the tone. This sort of garbage ends here.
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colin_wood wrote:I would have thought there would be a clause in AFL player contracts that lets the club terminate the contract if the player is found guilty of a criminal offense ??
Needs to be found guilty first.
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magirl wrote:Being careful as alleged rather than proven charges in a court of law. But if guilty, I would rather take the wooden spoon than continue to condone this type of culture at our club. I hope he is not guilty, but the club needs to draw a line in the sand that it will not be drawn into this disrepute by anyone who holds themselves above the repute of tha club and their contribtion to the team.
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