Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[stui magpie]

It’s what’s called “wishful thinking” and “delusional” - but carry on.

A year ago, people would have been losing their sanity over numbers of cases and deaths like those presently being experienced. Somehow, some clever party hack rebrands that as “Living with COVID” and a large number of people who would otherwise be extremely critical of the track record of dealing with ithe pandemic swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Not delusional at all.

I completely agree that 12 months ago people would have been losing their minds over the case numbers, that was due to the relentless scare campaign being used by politicians and spread by media to keep people compliant during lockdowns and other restrictions.

To be fair, the scare campaign was necessary as the evidence from overseas was that if Covid was let loose in an unvaccinated society it would cause carnage. But having lived through almost 2 years of restrictions, people are over it and in a highly vaccinated society are no longer concerned with case numbers. For mine, I was indeed scathing of the Victorian governments utter inability to manage Covid like every other Australian State and territory, without requiring extensive lockdowns and restrictions and my opinion on that has been proven correct.

The small number of deaths, while tragic, are largely unvaccinated people and far less than we would be getting with similar case numbers 12 months ago. The vast majority of vaccinated cases have minimal symptoms and recover quickly. No party hack invented the term "living with Covid", it's been in common usage for over 12 months internationally.

The other terms you may be familiar with is that once highly vaccinated, Covid will cease being a Pandemic and become Endemic, like cold and flu.

You feel free to take whatever precautions you deem necessary for your personal health and safety, the rest of us are getting on with life.

[stui magpie]

It’s what’s called “wishful thinking” and “delusional” - but carry on.

A year ago, people would have been losing their sanity over numbers of cases and deaths like those presently being experienced. Somehow, some clever party hack rebrands that as “Living with COVID” and a large number of people who would otherwise be extremely critical of the track record of dealing with ithe pandemic swallow it hook, line and sinker.

You aren't 20 and have missed two years of your life where you can go out and meet people.

You aren't a small business owner generating little to no income during lockdowns.

Delusional is thinking we can hide ourselves away during a pandemic and no one dies.

Living with COVID is exactly that. You can make a choice and stay at home if you wish. Just don't be critical of others who choose not to live that kind of "life".

Spot on.

[Pies4shaw]

You feel free to take whatever precautions you deem necessary for your personal health and safety, the rest of us are getting on with life.

^ Just keep the snide personal shit to yourself. Yoyu've got no idea about what I am doing, or why.

[Jezza]

You aren't 20 and have missed two years of your life where you can go out and meet people.

You aren't a small business owner generating little to no income during lockdowns.

Delusional is thinking we can hide ourselves away during a pandemic and no one dies.

Living with COVID is exactly that. You can make a choice and stay at home if you wish. Just don't be critical of others who choose not to live that kind of "life".

This post resonates with me.

I never imagined my mid to late 20s would consist of lockdowns and being robbed of the prime years of my life.

As things are opening up, I'm taking advantage of catching up with friends and meeting new people which we haven't been able to do properly for the past two years.

I don't want to waste my life being at home constantly and being kept "safe" because the government mandates it. Life is too short living in perpetual fear of this virus.

[stui magpie]

You feel free to take whatever precautions you deem necessary for your personal health and safety, the rest of us are getting on with life.

^ Just keep the snide personal shit to yourself. Yoyu've got no idea about what I am doing, or why.

No snide personal shit involved. TP and Dave will keep wearing masks while shopping because that works for them, you take whatever measures you want that work for you.

Just quit with the Armageddon predictions if you could, the majority of us have moved on.

[eddiesmith]

Statistically, some of that "nice convenient spike" is people who are going to die of COVID in coming weeks. A little empathy wouldn't go astray.

Also, if it matters - and I know it doesn't matter to you because facts aren't your thing, the number of new cases today is around about the same mark it's been at for the last month or more.

By the way, what's the explanation for NSW's figure of 804 new cases today? It's the highest number they've reported for about 10 weeks - and more than 3 times the number from a week ago.

Case numbers mean nothing, otherwise what was the point of us getting that experimental jab?

It’s convenient because numbers dropped when the government changed the way they counted number of people in hospital, yet it suddenly jumps the day before the restrictions are supposed to ease? The same day Dan goes into hiding and sends the deputy to a major announcement?

The day the doomsday cult have empathy for the majority of people who’ve been hurting for nearly 2 years to appease the minority who’ve enjoyed living in fear I’ll worry about unvaccinated people with severe health problems dying. But then we’ve never had to be restricted to protect the thousands of vulnerable people who die every month without covid…

[Dave The Man]

Statistically, some of that "nice convenient spike" is people who are going to die of COVID in coming weeks. A little empathy wouldn't go astray.

Also, if it matters - and I know it doesn't matter to you because facts aren't your thing, the number of new cases today is around about the same mark it's been at for the last month or more.

By the way, what's the explanation for NSW's figure of 804 new cases today? It's the highest number they've reported for about 10 weeks - and more than 3 times the number from a week ago.

Case numbers mean nothing, otherwise what was the point of us getting that experimental jab?

It’s convenient because numbers dropped when the government changed the way they counted number of people in hospital, yet it suddenly jumps the day before the restrictions are supposed to ease? The same day Dan goes into hiding and sends the deputy to a major announcement?

The day the doomsday cult have empathy for the majority of people who’ve been hurting for nearly 2 years to appease the minority who’ve enjoyed living in fear I’ll worry about unvaccinated people with severe health problems dying. But then we’ve never had to be restricted to protect the thousands of vulnerable people who die every month without covid…

IF hardly getting People Sick enough to go to Hospital or Worse means then be less reasons to worry as be more like the Common Cold/Flu

[eddiesmith]

Exactly, which is why whilst some people are running around in fear of Omicron, others are hopeful its actually the beginning of the end of Covid being a threat and becoming just another variation of the flu.

[Morrigu]

SMH

[think positive]

/\ Thankyou for all you do. Xxx


No one is moving on from this, they are merely becoming petulant and selfish. You can’t move on from this, ask England, ask Europe. It’s summer here, well every second day anyway!

I satin a meeting tonight and just about passed out from wearing a mask I the hot room, yes they are a pain, but gees I hope the majority of people have the good sense to keep wearing them indoors , god help us if they don’t. Is it really that bad? Try being a lip reader in these times!

This really is the age of entitlement!

[Pies4shaw]

You aren't 20 and have missed two years of your life where you can go out and meet people.

You aren't a small business owner generating little to no income during lockdowns.

Delusional is thinking we can hide ourselves away during a pandemic and no one dies.

Living with COVID is exactly that. You can make a choice and stay at home if you wish. Just don't be critical of others who choose not to live that kind of "life".

Great calls.

1. Thanks to COVID, the courts closed, the bottom fell out of my work and I'm not now a small business owner, so you got that bit right, at least - however inadvertently.

2. Happily, because I'm really good at what I do, I picked up a well-paid gig (for employment) as an employee to tide me over until I can get back to doing my actual job. In the meantime, I'm surviving in greatly straitened circumstances - I don't understand how people can live comfortably on a few hundred thousand dollars a year. It's alright for slumming it for a few weekends - but it isn't life.

3. No, I'm not 20 - but I have a son in his early 20s whose job as a highly sought-after professional musician just stopped when COVID hit. He hasn't played a live gig for 18 months. My daughter, who is slightly younger than my son, is an opera singer. She can't work, either. Thanks to COVID, my son is working in a furniture factory and my daugher, instead of singing at the Met and La Scala, is home with Mum and Dad. The troubles caused for young people, the destruction of lives and the ruination of fledgling careers is not lost on me.

4. I don't "hide away in a pandemic". However, the petulant notion that this is all "over" because some of you - with short attention spans and an apparent inability to stick at important tasks - have had enough of it is tragic. Getting on with life requires recognition that there is a dangerous disease about, having people take appropriate precautions for the safety of others and compelling the idiots to get vaccinated, so the spread of it is reduced and hospitals aren't pointlessly clogged up with people, 9 out of 10 of whom are very sick because they made a stupid choice.

I will, of course, continue to be critical of the mind-numbing stupidity I see some espouse on here. Not all problems have simple answers. Not everything is capable of being reduced to a dichotomy.

Finally - and I say this advisedly - I am very, very tired of people taking pot shots at me on the assumption that I am "staying home" and they are "living life". That simply isn't the case - it's an example of another numpty dichotomy perpetuated by some on here. The assumption that I must be "holed up" merely because I urge caution and an intelligent, reasoned response to the situation in which we find ourselves, is a nonsense. It's also, of course - given my large management responsibilities and the public face of my present role - entirely impossible.

[Pies4shaw]

Australia has managed an all-time record for new cases today - 2,765 (NSW 1,360; Victoria 1,405).

[stui magpie]

SMH

I read your post before you deleted it and even though you said not to bother responding, I do have a few things I wanted to say.

1. I'm sorry that I seem to have pissed you off. I thought we were friends but I guess not anymore and I'm sad about that.

2. My criticism of the Government handling of this pandemic does not extend to the front line workers. They're the ones being given a bucket of fresh fecal matter and a loaf of stale white bread and being told to create gourmet meals. I have the utmost respect for you, personally, and for all the front line workers dealing with this shit show.

3. I have expressed sympathy for the unvaccinated, that should not be interpreted to believe I condone in any way the kinds of scenarios you described. There is NO excuse for violence toward health workers, none!

4. I stand by my comment about moving on. The vaccine provides very good protection against serious illness and hospitalisation, even if Omicron is more infectious. We'll keep getting unvaccinated cases in ICU's until we run out of unvaccinated people who haven't been infected. Unfortunately that will mean that the shit show continues for those who work in that setting but that's not a reason to continue restrictions unnecessarily. By this time next year just about everyone will have caught Omicron anyway, regardless of restrictions.

5. I don't understand how I can be coming across as "entitled". I fully acknowledge I've had a far easier ride through Covid than most. I lost a job that I didn't like very much (mostly a shit boss) but got another one I did like that's seen me through 2021. I haven't lost income or family, like almost everyone else I've suffered through not being able to see family but that's now fixed.

From my perspective, I'm simply trying to be realistic and pragmatic, probably with a touch of optimism thrown in. if that's been interpreted differently to how I intended it, I apologise.

[stui magpie]

NSW removes more restrictions and releases the unvaccinated back into society.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-15/ ... /100685704

[Pies4shaw]

Great timing - they’re doing that on the back of a 3-month high, including 80 new Omicron cases. It’s plainly a political decision to stick with their decision, come what may - not a science-based one (no, I’m not making some party-political point: I fully expect Victoria to “show leadership” by holding its course, too). Meanwhile, the UK - despite its libertarian (for which, of course, read anti-science, anti-intellectual) is tightening restrictions as Omicron emerges.