Post Match. Tigers def. Pies - All comments please

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

Even with the horrible misses, we are ahead in the third quarter.
Bucks then decides to throw an extra into defence. The backfires horribly as Rance and Houli now find room ... Richmond finally has finally found some run.

Bucks realises his mistake late in the thrid and goes back to a 6 man defence. Realising how well the loose man is working, Hardwick immediate counters by putting an extra in defence.
Bucks refuses to man this extra defender.

This continues to into the 4th. Buckley finally realises he has to man the extra defender so makes it 7 on 7 in our forward line.
We now start to fight back but the horse had bolted.

A terrible coaching performance

A fantastic observation

[Lazza]

[thompsoc]

Is Schade really ahead of Dunn? Dunn or Goldie on Riewoldt [mind you Goldie was one of our best]?
Could Daicos or Kirby had more impact than Blairy?
Adams or Josh Thomas, who has the better disposal?
Grundy winning hitouts but zero centre clearances in the first half, how?
Mayne slots the character shot on half time then misses the on-a-roll gimme in the 3rd, how?
Fasolo goes from 52.21 elite sniper the last two seasons to 3.6 flunky who looks like he has no idea what to do out there, how?
Cox gets dropped whilst Richmond go with two average stocks in Griffiths and Nankervis, why?

You know a lot of those answers Cam.
You do keep your ammo dry a lot of the time.
As for Schade, I don't know that much about him.
In the 2 games I have seen of him, I just wonder how much of an improvement he is over frost.
Frost is stronger and a better mark.
Schade is better below his knees and I wonder if he is better at disposing of the pill.
It seems to be a game of ring around the rosie or whatever that game was named.
I think you are saying we are on a merry go round and not on a straight arrow.

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

[Lazza]

Does anyone still think giving JDG another 3 extra weeks was a smart idea.
I didn't so then and I still think the same now.

VERY good point. Punish the bloke by all means but punishing the entire club at a crucial part of the season is SOOOO dumb...... Silly decisions being made at the moment, almost knee jerk reactions to the hack media.

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

Is Schade really ahead of Dunn? Dunn or Goldie on Riewoldt [mind you Goldie was one of our best]?
Could Daicos or Kirby had more impact than Blairy?
Adams or Josh Thomas, who has the better disposal?
Grundy winning hitouts but zero centre clearances in the first half, how?
Mayne slots the character shot on half time then misses the on-a-roll gimme in the 3rd, how?
Fasolo goes from 52.21 elite sniper the last two seasons to 3.6 flunky who looks like he has no idea what to do out there, how?
Cox gets dropped whilst Richmond go with two average stocks in Griffiths and Nankervis, why?

Coaches get paid good coin to come up with answers to these questions

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

I think someone else mentioned it, but it was particularly disappointing to not see anyone fly the flag for either Treloar when he was getting roughed up by pretty boy Cochin, or that no-one had a go at Martin for sniping Aish...should never, ever, happen, regardless of form...ratpack would never of allowed that to go down

[MarkOSuv]

Daicos or Kirby aren't ready.

They will both get games in the 2nd half of the year when the club has publically conceded.

[Damien]

Everything aside; we kick straight in the last two weeks, were 2-0. That is a fact. Confidence is sky high and we head to Sydney with our tails up. Confidence is a big thing in footy. We need to find some somehow.

If Richmond kicked straight they would have put the game away. Doesn't work like that.

Ah sorry son but it does. The team who kicks the most goals wins the game of footy last time I looked. We had more shots on goal than both the Dogs and the Tiges and more gettable shots too.

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

Does anyone still think giving JDG another 3 extra weeks was a smart idea.
I didn't so then and I still think the same now.

VERY good point. Punish the bloke by all means but punishing the entire club at a crucial part of the season is SOOOO dumb...... Silly decisions being made at the moment, almost knee jerk reactions to the hack media.

I take the view that a sports club is a bit like an army. Without discipline it crumbles in the first adversity in the heat of the battle. So more than happy to wear the extra 3 weeks that JDG serves if it means we come out stronger.

[think positive]

Does anyone still think giving JDG another 3 extra weeks was a smart idea.
I didn't so then and I still think the same now.

VERY good point. Punish the bloke by all means but punishing the entire club at a crucial part of the season is SOOOO dumb...... Silly decisions being made at the moment, almost knee jerk reactions to the hack media.

I take the view that a sports club is a bit like an army. Without discipline it crumbles in the first adversity in the heat of the battle. So more than happy to wear the extra 3 weeks that JDG serves if it means we come out stronger.

nup, thats bucks problem i reckon too rigid
punish him without punishing the team, we have enough problems

[think positive]

[Piesnchess]

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

Is Schade really ahead of Dunn? Dunn or Goldie on Riewoldt [mind you Goldie was one of our best]?
Could Daicos or Kirby had more impact than Blairy?
Adams or Josh Thomas, who has the better disposal?
Grundy winning hitouts but zero centre clearances in the first half, how?
Mayne slots the character shot on half time then misses the on-a-roll gimme in the 3rd, how?
Fasolo goes from 52.21 elite sniper the last two seasons to 3.6 flunky who looks like he has no idea what to do out there, how?
Cox gets dropped whilst Richmond go with two average stocks in Griffiths and Nankervis, why?

1) I have Dunn ahead of Schade and Goldsack ahead of Schade, so Schade goes down to VFL for me
2) Broomhead for Blair and keep playing Daicos and Kirby in the VFL until ready
3) Don't judge Adams on one game. He was fine against the doggies. Keep playing Josh Thomas in the VFL until ready
4) Grundy was fantastic. No need to panic
5) Fasolo is normally a great kick. Just an aberration against Richmond
6) Cox should never have been dropped. Play in the seniors until Keeffe shows that he is a better option than Cox

[mooretreloar]

For the ignorant, of which there are many on this site, read the below:

Quarter 1
- Sidebottom misses a snap at an open goal
- Moore misses a set shot
- Crisp misses a set shot

Quarter 2
- Fasolo misses a set shot
- White misses a set shot (from the boundary, so he should be cut some slack)
- Hoskin-Elliott shanks a kick from half forward across ground straight to Richmond, Cotchin goals on the rebound
- Aish misses a set shot
- Fasolo misses a snap towards an open goal
- Treloar kicks out of bounds on the full running towards goal under no pressure
- Pendles kicks out of bounds on the full on his right foot

Quarter 3
- Treloar misses a set shot after White finds him with a beautiful left foot pass around the body. Kicks this we are 22 points up.
- Mayne misses from 15 metres out
- Fasolo misses a set shot from directly in front
- Goldsack kicks in straight to Lennon, a goal results
- Grundy misses from 50 on the run under no pressure
- Fasolo tries to centre the ball to Moore makes a skill error and gives the ball to Richmond in a dangerous position. A goal on the rebound results.

At this stage of the game, we are 8 points behind, and there are 17 instances, that's right 17, were we should have goaled and stopped them from goaling. This is all from memory and if I went through the replay I am sure I will find 2 to 3 goals more for Richmond caused by our poor decision making or skills. The game should have been done and dusted at half time, let alone 3/4 time.

Consequently, stop posting drivel regarding Buckley and think before you post. This loss sits squarely with the players. If you don't think so, post something to counter the above. Not generic statements like, the coach is responsible for skills. The players are professional athletes paid a lot of money to do their job properly, which is to execute their skills and decision making on match days. Last night they were 2 out of 10 in these areas.

In conclusion, you are kidding yourself if you don't think Buckley and his coaching staff work on our skills. It is easy to do it in training, but it is very hard to replicate the pressure of match conditions, which skills need to be executed under.