Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Nick's current affairs & general discussion about anything that's not sport.
Voice your opinion on stories of interest to all at Nick's.

Moderator: bbmods

Locked
User avatar
Pies4shaw
Posts: 34886
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:14 pm
Has liked: 136 times
Been liked: 182 times

Post by Pies4shaw »

NSW records more than 20,000 COVID-19 cases for second-straight day
New South Wales has recorded 22,577 COVID-19 cases, the second day in a row where more than 20,000 new cases were reported.

There were also five deaths of those with COVID-19 reported.

Hospitalisations rose to 901, up from 832 in the previous reporting period.

There are now 79 patients in intensive care, an increase of 10 from yesterday.

There were 119,278 tests undertaken in the state, down from yesterday's 148,410.

Victoria records 7,442 cases and nine deaths
Victoria has recorded 7,442 new COVID-19 cases and nine deaths.

It is the fifth day in a row that Victoria has recorded an increase in the number of new cases and is up from the 5,919 new cases reported yesterday.

There are now 24,161 active cases of the virus, and 712 people have died in the current outbreak.

Hospitalisations have risen from 428 on Friday to 451 today, taking the seven-day average to 406.

The figure includes 51 patients in intensive care, with 21 patients on a ventilator.

The health department said a further 47 patients were in ICU but their infections were no longer considered active.

There were 63,026 test results recorded yesterday, as testing sites continued to face heavy demand.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-01/covid-updates-latest-news-omicron-new-year-day/100734182
User avatar
think positive
Posts: 40243
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:33 pm
Location: somewhere
Has liked: 342 times
Been liked: 105 times

Post by think positive »

Any vaccination data on those in hospital?

And I’ll be glad when my youngest gets back from NSW!
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
User avatar
stui magpie
Posts: 54844
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 10:10 am
Location: In flagrante delicto
Has liked: 132 times
Been liked: 168 times

Post by stui magpie »

https://www.theage.com.au/national/welc ... 59kzf.html
With a significant contribution from Australian science, COVID-19 is now the most treatable respiratory virus known to man. The case-to-fatality ratio of Omicron is likely to be less than that of influenza, and not a particularly bad flu at that. That will allow us to release all but the least intrusive of restrictions.
Here's hoping
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
User avatar
think positive
Posts: 40243
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:33 pm
Location: somewhere
Has liked: 342 times
Been liked: 105 times

Post by think positive »

Aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi! Good stuff
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
User avatar
Dave The Man
Posts: 45001
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:04 pm
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 21 times
Contact:

Post by Dave The Man »

stui magpie wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/national/welcome-to-2022-the-year-this-pandemic-ends-20211230-p59kzf.html
With a significant contribution from Australian science, COVID-19 is now the most treatable respiratory virus known to man. The case-to-fatality ratio of Omicron is likely to be less than that of influenza, and not a particularly bad flu at that. That will allow us to release all but the least intrusive of restrictions.
Here's hoping
We are all Hoping that but I would also not get my hopes up Too High just yet
I am Da Man
User avatar
What'sinaname
Posts: 20135
Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 10:00 pm
Location: Living rent free
Has liked: 8 times
Been liked: 35 times

Post by What'sinaname »

Dave The Man wrote: We are all Hoping that but I would also not get my hopes up Too High just yet
ICU patients have halved in the last week. While the doom and gloomers will try to tell you the end of the world is nigh, it's not.

The media love the doom and gloom as they need content and clicks. It doesn't get clicks if they say COVID is less concerning than the flu.
Last edited by What'sinaname on Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
MatthewBoydFanClub
Posts: 5559
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:02 pm
Location: Elwood
Been liked: 1 time

Post by MatthewBoydFanClub »

Magpietothemax wrote:
E wrote:
burnsy17 wrote:Or more likely in Covid Isolation!
COVID isolation is soooo 2021!!!

2022 is going to be the year of getting on with it. If you are fully vaxxed with a booster shot, COVID is nothing more than a runny nose and sore throat for one day! Isolation to avoid others getting that (even without the boosters, its just 24 hours of fatigue added in). Ridiculous. Nearly every single person in new york has covid right now. you wouldn't know that by looking at hospital numbers because we all fully vaxxed!!!! Time for government's to get with the reality of the situation on the ground.

if you are too stupid to get the vaccine, then i feel a little like Ivan Drago - "if he dies, he dies"....

If you have covid, do what they have done in Asia for 100 years. Wear a mask out of respect for others. but just get on with it!
I am sorry E, but this comment is totally unacceptable. COVID is NOT just a "runny nose". Read the latest report from OzSAG. Covid is an insidious and unpredictable disease which has unknown future implications, In particular, the consequences of Long Covid are not yet known, but according the OzSAG report I referenced above, the virus remains in many organs (including the brain) long after the initial infection has been fought off. It is predicted that at least 10% of those infected by the virus will be afflicted by Long Covid.
Moreover, with the emergence of Omicron, even if you have had two shots, you are effectively unvaccinated against this variant.
This is a dangerous disease,and the long term effects are unknown. Please do not spread false information about this disease.
Not according to Dr Nick Coatsworth in today's Age Newspaper. He predicts the COVID pandemic will be over sometime during 2022 due to the vaccinations and improved forms of treatment. He also states that the Omicron strain is much less severe than previous strains and even if you get it you're unlikely to suffer the same life threatening conditions from previous COVID. And vaccinations are still effective against the Omicron strain. You're more likely to get Omicron even if you've been vaccinated but you're much less likely to die of the Omicron strain, particularly if you've been vaccinated. I'm sure they'll be medical experts and epidemiologists who disagree with Dr Nick Coatsworth, but what all the medical experts do agree on is the benefits of the vaccines.
User avatar
Pies4shaw
Posts: 34886
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:14 pm
Has liked: 136 times
Been liked: 182 times

Post by Pies4shaw »

I think you’ll likely find that’s rubbish. The Victorian Government, at least, only counts the number of people in ICU who still have active COVID - if their COVID is no longer “active” (so that they’re just dying from it), they aren’t in the count (that meant that the almost 100 ICU cases yesterday in Victoria was reported as about 50). Without being interested in pursuing all of the ways in which all of the jurisdictions are telling their own irresponsible versions of the “truth”, you should assume that they all (except, possibly, WA) have a vested interest in understating the impact of the present version of the disease on our health systems - elections will turn upon how glib the stories are.

Optimism performs an occasionally useful function, provided there’s a good factual basis for being optimistic. In other circumstances, it’s just dangerously stupid folly that risks people’s lives.
User avatar
Dave The Man
Posts: 45001
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:04 pm
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 21 times
Contact:

Post by Dave The Man »

What'sinaname wrote:
Dave The Man wrote: We are all Hoping that but I would also not get my hopes up Too High just yet
ICU patients have halved in the last week. While the doom and gloomers will try to tell you the end of the world is nigh, it's not.

The media love the doom and gloom as they need content and clicks. It doesn't get clicks if they say COVID is less concerning than the flu.
Very Good Point Numbers of Cases are going up but ICU Numbers have gone from 75 on Christmas Eve to 51.

Kind of Pathetic the Media don't mention that
I am Da Man
User avatar
Dave The Man
Posts: 45001
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:04 pm
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 21 times
Contact:

Post by Dave The Man »

stui magpie wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/national/welcome-to-2022-the-year-this-pandemic-ends-20211230-p59kzf.html
With a significant contribution from Australian science, COVID-19 is now the most treatable respiratory virus known to man. The case-to-fatality ratio of Omicron is likely to be less than that of influenza, and not a particularly bad flu at that. That will allow us to release all but the least intrusive of restrictions.
Here's hoping
People been Calling him nothing more then a Goverment Stooge
I am Da Man
User avatar
Dave The Man
Posts: 45001
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:04 pm
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 21 times
Contact:

Post by Dave The Man »

Pies4shaw wrote:I think you’ll likely find that’s rubbish. The Victorian Government, at least, only counts the number of people in ICU who still have active COVID - if their COVID is no longer “active” (so that they’re just dying from it), they aren’t in the count (that meant that the almost 100 ICU cases yesterday in Victoria was reported as about 50). Without being interested in pursuing all of the ways in which all of the jurisdictions are telling their own irresponsible versions of the “truth”, you should assume that they all (except, possibly, WA) have a vested interest in understating the impact of the present version of the disease on our health systems - elections will turn upon how glib the stories are.

Optimism performs an occasionally useful function, provided there’s a good factual basis for being optimistic. In other circumstances, it’s just dangerously stupid folly that risks people’s lives.
So with that do you want to go back to Lockdown to try and Save People's Lives?
I am Da Man
User avatar
Pies4shaw
Posts: 34886
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:14 pm
Has liked: 136 times
Been liked: 182 times

Post by Pies4shaw »

^ I would prefer that people stop pretending it is all OK solely on the basis that they want it to be OK.
User avatar
Dave The Man
Posts: 45001
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:04 pm
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 21 times
Contact:

Post by Dave The Man »

Pies4shaw wrote:^ I would prefer that people stop pretending it is all OK solely on the basis that they want it to be OK.
and Do you Blame them as People want Hope with this Pandamic.

I do agree I hate when Hearing the Media/People saying it's over because of Vaccines. Vaccines help a Bloody Lot but still no Guarantee. Need something that can Treat Covid when Someone has it before we get to the next Good Step
I am Da Man
User avatar
think positive
Posts: 40243
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:33 pm
Location: somewhere
Has liked: 342 times
Been liked: 105 times

Post by think positive »

Pies4shaw wrote:^ I would prefer that people stop pretending it is all OK solely on the basis that they want it to be OK.
100%.

Dave we are all over it, well and truly, but at least me you and your mates dog can escape thinking about it now and then, think about the people working in hospitals etc.

The truth needs to be told, and it’s a fact that far too many icu beds are occupied due to covid, active or not.
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
User avatar
stui magpie
Posts: 54844
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 10:10 am
Location: In flagrante delicto
Has liked: 132 times
Been liked: 168 times

Post by stui magpie »

Yet in Victoria, dodgy reporting or not, those cases make up less than 10% of the ICU capacity so while the front line workers would be bloody busy the system is not stretched or anywhere near breaking point.

With the changes to testing requiements the daily case numbers become truly meaningless as they will be massively understated, the real measures will be hospitalisations and ICU cases.

Up in Toc it seems like all the Victorians left their masks at home. The supermarket is jam packed with maskless people and very few bother to use the QR checkins and no-one cares.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Locked