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MatthewBoydFanClub wrote:
Lazza wrote:The non PC question is “How can Browne get Collingwood to the position of being the most hated football club in Australia?” In our history we have played some of our best football when it has been an “us versus them” scenario where we have had our backs against the wall. Hafey made an art form of orchestrating this. You know Collingwood is in deep shit when the hack media and feral opposition supporters start feeling sorry for us. This happens when we consistently lose. If we ever get to the glory days of when we used to annihilate teams, we will be doing well but team salary cap equalisation makes this task improbable. So we need to start winning more than we lose and slowly start to piss off the Collingwood haters. That will be a great start.
Sorry but I disagree totally with you. If we pursue an us versus them strategy this football club is stuffed. We live in the 21st century now. It's about living with everybody else. Making enemies of Adam Goodes and Caroline Wilson like Eddie did is the last thing this football club should be doing.
Precisely. Being admired for excellence doesn't imply for a second that you're not ruthlessly competitive. We're hated right now, but in a pitiful, contemptuous way that has the best footballing talent running a mile. Our organisation needs to have a halo effect that enhances value, not a tarnishing effect that diminishes it. Ambitious, self-respecting athletes are not going to choose to devalue their careers that way.

Moreover, our us-versus-the-world stance makes us a predictable one-trick pony. We're laughably easy to goad and manipulate, which is why we're everyone's bunnies.
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Jezza wrote:I like some of Browne's stances.
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[*] Seek out new long-term sponsors with CGU and Holden exiting the club.

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Is it known why CGU are fleeing?


Update: The decision was made after the racism stuff...

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/au ... 46170.aspx
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K wrote:
pietillidie wrote:...
Qn. What is your mental SWOT analysis of the CFC, and where can you best contribute given that analysis?
What do you mean by this?
I wasn't sure either, but a quick Google search cleared it up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWOT_analysis
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K wrote:
pietillidie wrote:...
Qn. What is your mental SWOT analysis of the CFC, and where can you best contribute given that analysis?
What do you mean by this?
Sorry, unclear wording on my part. I mean the informal SWOT they carry around in their head, as opposed to something lifted from a formal document. Just answering this alone and explaining what they bring to the table in relation thereto would tell you all you need about them. It's an interview question: without looking up a document, what is the SWOT you carry around in your head about the CFC?

If you don't make them define the SWOTs, they will talk vague drivel about the club. If you don't make them say how they will deal with the SWOTs, they will talk vague drivel about themselves. It forces them to explain their understanding of the club's current position in context, view themselves as a role player in a team, and prioritise their actions (prioritisation is a great follow-up question, in fact).

E.g., take technology. We're obviously technologically backward, but it takes some serious smarts and know-how to build a tech edge into an organisation. If a candidate failed to identify this in the weaknesses, threats and opportunities, and failed to explain how they will grapple with this beyond the cringeworthy 'I will hire the best in the business', then it's adios. Strategic tech smarts are a basic leadership literacy; they're simply not optional.

This is one reason why I favour Holgate and Febbraio, for starters. Enough with the dinosaurs who make their money through personal wheeling and dealing in the shadows and via mates and fraternities; it's all over red rover for that sort of mercurial approach to business because it will never in a million years build a smart organisation.
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just voted as a legend’s member
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Lazza wrote:So what needs to change in the current process to enable more members to offer their services to the Board?
Increasing the pool of eligible members and introducing term limits and regular elections, for starters
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Lazza wrote:The non PC question is “How can Browne get Collingwood to the position of being the most hated football club in Australia?”
Given that Essendon currently hold that mantle, injecting our players with unknown concoctions and then denying all responsibility should do it. We already did the hire & fire an extra champion player part.

So, not sure that’s a path we want to go any further down
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:
Lazza wrote:The non PC question is “How can Browne get Collingwood to the position of being the most hated football club in Australia?”
Given that Essendon currently hold that mantle, injecting our players with unknown concoctions and then denying all responsibility should do it. We already did the hire & fire an extra champion player part.

So, not sure that’s a path we want to go any further down
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Just to get this straight.

Collingwood happy to get on its high horse campaigning against sports betting in case a kid happens to sees an advertisement for a service they have no effective ability to access.

Childhood obesity and kids filling their gobs with saturated fats all totally fine and the logo can go straight on the jumper.

If you're going to play the moralising game you need to be consistent.
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AJ wrote:Just to get this straight.

Collingwood happy to get on its high horse campaigning against sports betting in case a kid happens to sees an advertisement for a service they have no effective ability to access.

Childhood obesity and kids filling their gobs with saturated fats all totally fine and the logo can go straight on the jumper.

If you're going to play the moralising game you need to be consistent.
Yeah KFC surprised me as a premier sponsor. An out of the box, or bucket, combination.
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It’s fiinger licking’ goo… er, I mean how disgraceful. Won’t somebody pleeease think of the children!
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K wrote:
Jezza wrote:I like some of Browne's stances.
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[*] Seek out new long-term sponsors with CGU and Holden exiting the club.

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Is it known why CGU are fleeing?


Update: The decision was made after the racism stuff...

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/au ... 46170.aspx
I'd say there is more to this on the CGU side. If a company that is as PC as Nike has stayed on yet CGU are jumping ship? Doesn't make sense.
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:It’s fiinger licking’ goo… er, I mean how disgraceful. Won’t somebody pleeease think of the children!
Never understood how a brand like KFC can be associated with elite sport but then I suppose Cricket in this country wouldn't be where it is today without the tobacco sponsorship dollars in the 80's/90's same goes for F1.
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So is it the KFC centre now? If so, I hope they do drive through.
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Hopefully some nuggets selected in the draft!
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