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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:07 am
by MACDAICOS
nulla wrote:Eddie said late this season that Ben is a valued player at Collingwood.

I cannot see him going anywhere... apart form the Lexus centre and getting stuck into a long pre season.




8)
I tend to agree, Johno will be back in 2009.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:16 am
by David
If so, can only see him filling a role like Holland or Lonie did this year.

I think it'd be better for everyone if he was moved on at the end of the year. Has been a good player for us, but doesn't seem to fit in our future plans, and giving him a year as a forgotten man in the VFL would be unfair.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:23 am
by nulla
David wrote:If so, can only see him filling a role like Holland or Lonie did this year.

I think it'd be better for everyone if he was moved on at the end of the year. Has been a good player for us, but doesn't seem to fit in our future plans, and giving him a year as a forgotten man in the VFL would be unfair.
I think your confusing yourself with the meanings of "forgotten player", "future plans" and "current form".




Go Pies

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:31 am
by Jace
nulla wrote:Eddie said late this season that Ben is a valued player at Collingwood.

I cannot see him going anywhere... apart form the Lexus centre and getting stuck into a long pre season.
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Didn't Eddie also say he couldn't kick & bag him infront of the team?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:31 am
by The General
daics cousin wrote:He may be used in trade,for someone like harris from north.
Hahahahahahahahahaha

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:38 am
by David
nulla wrote:
David wrote:If so, can only see him filling a role like Holland or Lonie did this year.

I think it'd be better for everyone if he was moved on at the end of the year. Has been a good player for us, but doesn't seem to fit in our future plans, and giving him a year as a forgotten man in the VFL would be unfair.
I think your confusing yourself with the meanings of "forgotten player", "future plans" and "current form".
Fair enough, but is it just a lapse in form? Surely it's an ominous sign when a senior player without any injury concerns can't break into the team for almost two months on end.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:38 am
by nulla
Didn't Eddie also say he couldn't kick & bag him infront of the team?

And if you had of seen the interiview with Eddie on the FS he answered to that.... it was the very same interview he said he was a valued player

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:39 am
by John Wren
MACDAICOS wrote:
nulla wrote:Eddie said late this season that Ben is a valued player at Collingwood.

I cannot see him going anywhere... apart form the Lexus centre and getting stuck into a long pre season.




8)
I tend to agree, Johno will be back in 2009.
when did eddie move into list management? :shock:

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:44 am
by kickit2me
David wrote:but is it just a lapse in form?
It's a bloody long lapse!

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:45 am
by nulla
Fair enough, but is it just a lapse in form? Surely it's an ominous sign when a senior player without any injury concerns can't break into the team for almost two months on end
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David

if you look at his stats on his last game and two games before that they were his worse stats for the year... ontop of I might add a not to good year before those games.


Ben just has not found form and for someone of his class I think he will be back showing his true worth in the magpie colours.





Nulla

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:56 am
by nulla
JMCP
when did eddie move into list management?

about the same time all the critiques here on Nicks did, only problem is that Eddie had the chance to speak his mind on TV and his word for some reason goes a little further than yours or mine

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:57 am
by AN_Inkling
nulla wrote:Eddie said late this season that Ben is a valued player at Collingwood.

I cannot see him going anywhere... apart form the Lexus centre and getting stuck into a long pre season.
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The question is would he want to stay after not being selected for so long?

Only way I see him staying is if he agrees that his fitness and form did not warrant selection and he has the determination to turn that around. Otherwise, he'll leave out of disgruntlement, or be let go.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:58 am
by John Wren
nulla wrote:JMCP
when did eddie move into list management?

about the same time all the critiques here on Nicks did, only problem is that Eddie had the chance to speak his mind on TV and his word for some reason goes a little further than yours or mine
i'm a little disappointed and shocked. :wink:

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:01 am
by nulla
i'm a little disappointed and shocked.

Lets hope your weekend is different and we bring home the bacon

:D

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:01 am
by uuuuu..... The LoneSTAR
nulla wrote:Ben just has not found form and for someone of his class I think he will be back showing his true worth in the magpie colours.
I hope you're right Nulla!
Don't get me wrong people, i value the art of kicking VERY HIGH!!!... it's a defining skill in our game that i cannot believe how many people don't really appreciate. Having said that, an in form Ben Johnson with his experience, mature body and physical style of hard running play could add plenty of worth to our current team!!