Grundy was having a shocker but didn’t stop trying. That’s the quote I thought of when he laid the big inspirational tackle.BazBoy wrote:It was classic Kanga Kennedy
“Do something
Come in and say I smothered or I knocked a ball on “
That happened innumerable times last night and JT one to Checkers for a sausage roll was “ Coach I did something “
Don’t bag any player last night as everyone did something in small or huge amounts. Embrace the gutsy effort
Post Match. Pies dump Toast. All comments, please.
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It's a Labor Government what do you expect. Andrews is the same. Bastard Globalists. There is no Covid in WA.Presti35 wrote:If it's true that our playing group was separated by the coaching group in a caravan park, there's a lesson in that for you... respect your opponent and treat them with respect.
To the WA government, the WA officials, Perth as a whole, The WC Eagles, the Perth media and to the WC crowd that have no fkn idea...
Eat a bag of toasty turds you sore sore cut and cheating losers.
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It's alright Haff is a Carlton supporter. How the mods haven't figured that out yet I have no idea!What'sinaname wrote:Absolutely 100% correct. Anyone with a clue knows what Ryan did and what Cameron said about us.Haff wrote:I’m guessing Charlie was his comments which indicated we can’t win. Hope not racist connotations. Would be dissapointingthe fuzz wrote: ???
You’ve had some cheap shots before, but what’s the point of this?
Racist?
Negative?
Negative racist??
Dickhead
But for those without a clue.
Charlie Cameron can get stuffed saying Brisbane play the winner of Geelong and West Coast.
And Liam Ryan can get stuffed being an arrogant flog showing the ball to Maynard.
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OK, fair enough!What'sinaname wrote:Absolutely 100% correct. Anyone with a clue knows what Ryan did and what Cameron said about us.Haff wrote:I’m guessing Charlie was his comments which indicated we can’t win. Hope not racist connotations. Would be dissapointingthe fuzz wrote: ???
You’ve had some cheap shots before, but what’s the point of this?
Racist?
Negative?
Negative racist??
Dickhead
But for those without a clue.
Charlie Cameron can get stuffed saying Brisbane play the winner of Geelong and West Coast.
And Liam Ryan can get stuffed being an arrogant flog showing the ball to Maynard.
I apologise.
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^ all good the fuzz.
After that win, time for us all to unite.
Last night was back to US vs THEM.
After that win, time for us all to unite.
Last night was back to US vs THEM.
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I still reckon that was the greatest finals win ever under the greatest amount of handicaps a football side has ever had to face. The AFL should hang their head in shame they allowed us to be put up in a concentration camp by the WA government to give their Weagles (who slept in their own beds) an armchair ride.
I have never been prouder to be a Pies fan than last night (even when we won the flag in 2010). This was one for the ages AGAINST ALL ODDS.
We can win the flag with that sort of commitment.
P.S. A very special guts and determination award to every Pies fan that was at Optus last night having to put up with the redneck feral crowd. So proud of youse all as Jeff Fenech would say.
I have never been prouder to be a Pies fan than last night (even when we won the flag in 2010). This was one for the ages AGAINST ALL ODDS.
We can win the flag with that sort of commitment.
P.S. A very special guts and determination award to every Pies fan that was at Optus last night having to put up with the redneck feral crowd. So proud of youse all as Jeff Fenech would say.
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posted this after losing to Port and didn't get a lot (read none) of support toward this optimistic view ... best win since 2018 prelim and up there with the qualifying final against Port in 2002 when Bucks was out injured and no one rated our chances... Go Pies!My view is that our poor performance's are largely due to fumbling a very slippery ball at key moments. Based on this, my theory is that we were happy to travel to WA to get away from the dewey conditions of the Gabba.
Our skills will improve in the dryer conditions in WA and we will win.
Then by the time we return to the Gabba, the October winds that J Brown has been banging on about will dry out the Gabba and we will continue to our way to the flag.
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After a week of quarantine in Joondalup before the game, Collingwood upstaged West Coast by 1 point at Optus Stadium to keep the season alive for another week. The Magpies jumped the Eagles early by putting scoreboard pressure on by converting opportunities when they were on offer in the opening term, before the contest turned into an arm wrestle with West Coast coming back hard with their ability to generate goals from centre clearances a real factor for the remainder of the game. The Woods were able to respond at crucial junctures to regain the lead twice during the second half, despite the difficulties they had in being able to win clearances. Accuracy in front of goal ultimately proved the difference for Collingwood, while the Eagles peppered the goals without converting overly well, which consigned their season into culmination mode without continuation. West Coast will now have players, coaches and officials requiring to quarantine in their own homes for the next fortnight as a result of their defeat, while Collingwood's season will continue unhindered with their pulse remaining active for their pursuit of a premiership.
Collingwood won their categories from handballs by +15 (119 - 104), hit-outs were won by +2 (28 - 26), stoppage clearances had a differential of +4 (19 - 15), while contested possessions had an advantage of +11 (120 - 109), +6 for tackles (48 - 42), and Inside 50s were won narrowly by +2 ( 40 - 38 ). West Coast controlled most of the key indicators by winning disposals by +3 (285 - 282), kicks were won by +18 (181 - 163), while uncontested possessions had a differential of +13 (176 - 163), with clearances won by +3 (30 - 27), +7 from centre clearances ( 15 - 8 ), and intercept possessions had a margin of +3 (56 - 53). Marks were won by +26 (87 - 61), with +24 for uncontested marks (74 - 50), Contested Marks had a margin of +2 (13 - 11), with an added advantage of +3 for Marks Inside 50 (10 - 7), and Tackles Inside 50 was +1 (8 - 7) for the evening.
Adam Treloar (25 disposals @ 76%, 400 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 15 handballs, 9 score involvements, 5 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) found time and space for the majority of the evening to use the ball effectively. He gave Collingwood every chance to score some goals with his creativity and running power catching the Eagles off balance.
Taylor Adams (24 disposals @ 46%, 374 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 12 handballs, 8 tackles, 7 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) won the ball at will inside the packs, provided territory like Treloar, but not as effectively as he or the team would have desired. Adams saved Collingwood's bacon in the dying seconds by closing down the ball movement of the Eagles in the centre square to allow the Magpies to regain possession who would then maintain possession and milk the clock to ice a pulsating final in their favour.
Scott Pendlebury (18 disposals @ 61%, 326 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements, 6 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) had a modest night by his standards, but still won possessions and clearances at key times, and allowed the team to attack constantly.
Chris Mayne (18 disposals @ 89%, 134 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 11 handballs, 6 marks, 2 tackles & 3 score involvements) provided defensive cover from the wing really well by taking marks at the right time when the Eagles were pressing hard.
Josh Daicos (17 disposals @ 82%, 192 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 10 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles & 4 score involvements) displayed excellent composure under pressure with his ball use. Generated scores when they were on offer.
Levi Greenwood (13 disposals @ 62%, 195 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 8 tackles & 3 Inside 50s) gave Collingwood's midfield a hard and uncompromising edge with his tackling pressure and ability to generate a few forward entries, while also minimising the impact of Tim Kelly in the process.
Brodie Grundy (12 disposals @ 75%, 10 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 19 hit-outs, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances & 2 stoppage clearances) started the game very poorly, before responding in the last quarter with a couple of telling marks to slow the tempo of the game down. Grundy's tackle on Darling in the third term was his biggest moment of the night. Would like more output from you in our club's next final, Brodie.
Darcy Cameron (7 disposals @ 71%, 117 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 9 hit-outs, 5 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 3 Contested Marks & 2 score involvements) was given a key role at the start of the third and fourth terms by taking on Nic Naitanui at centre bounces with Grundy put on the bench on both occasions. Camron won some taps and did neutralise Naitanui to an extent without being able to dominate against him, nor was Collingwood's midfield in general who allowed their opponents to have a free run at the ball, and had time and space to find marking targets to expose Collingwood's defence. Thankfully, the Woods were able to prevail against that onslaught.
Jack Crisp (16 disposals @ 56%, 295 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 8 tackles, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) played a very simple game of footy which was suited for a final. Won the ball regularly, pumped it forward and made his tackles stick to prevent any goals being conceded.
Brayden Maynard (14 disposals @ 86%, 293 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 2 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) had his hands full in his efforts to curtail the mercurial Liam Ryan, who probably won the match-up convincingly. Maynard ended up having the last laugh with the Magpies getting over the line, despite Liam Ryan showing Maynard the ball in an act of bravado that I would not have expected. Bounce back with aplomb against the Cats, Brayden.
Darcy Moore (13 disposals @ 77%, 423 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 2 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 6 Rebound 50s) provided plenty of rebound from defence, but his effectiveness was not there, plus he needed to be accountable for Jack Darling, which made his ability to take intercept marks that much difficult and unlikely. May get to play off his opponent against Geelong a lot more to take those marks next week.
John Noble (12 disposals @ 67%, 259 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 2 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles & 2 score involvements) was largely forced to hurry the ball on under pressure which reduced his ability to be neat and effective. Kicked a great goal in the second term to maintain Collingwood's lead at that stage.
Jack Madgen (12 disposals @ 83%, 261 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles & 4 Rebound 50s) stood up under pressure in his first final for the club. Used the ball effectively and took his fair share of marks. Madgen has filled the void really well without Jeremy Howe by playing his role well.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (12 disposals @ 92%, 3 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 7 score involvements & 1 goal) provided a conduit for his teammates as a marking option, and was able impact the scoreboard with a well-judged mark before playing on to convert a goal that would give Collingwood back the lead during the third term in a game full of lead changes.
Jaidyn Stephenson (10 disposals @ 70%, 357 metres gained, 9 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 6 marks, 3 score involvements & 4 Inside 50s) made a welcome return to form as a high half-forward that would play as an extra winger to take his marks. Worked hard into defence to save a goal with a brilliant spoil, and was able to use his pace to his advantage whenever he found space.
Brody Mihocek (10 disposals @ 80%, 256 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 3 goals) struggled early, before taking the game by storm in the second half, especially in the last quarter with two telling goals which proved to be enough when the final siren sounded.
Jordan De Goey (9 disposals @ 56%, 304 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 6 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 2 goals) was shut down in the first two quarters, before scoring two cracking goals, including a goal on his non-preferred foot (drop punt on his left boot) from 45 metres against the run of play, before capitalising on a brilliant right-foot snap from a stoppage during the final term.
Jamie Elliott (9 disposals @ 56%, 127 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 3 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 4 score involvements, 4 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 1 goal) chipped in with a couple of crucial centre clearances when they were at a premium, while converting a timely goal during the second term when the team needed goals to be kicked.
Mason Cox (6 disposals @ 83%, 125 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 4 kicks, 2 handballs, 5 marks, 4 Contested Marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 4 score involvements & 3 goals) tore the game to shreds in the opening term to set the tone for the team's victory. His opening quarter was very similar to the second quarter of the Preliminary Final against Richmond in 2018, where he took marks and converted goals when they were needed.
Collingwood's next game will be against Geelong on October 10 at the Gabba. The Magpies will have their tails up heading into this game after that pulsating victory against the Eagles. Centre clearances is an area of focus against Geelong, as that almost won West Coast the game. Fix that up, then that will allow the defenders more time to defend, and allow the forwards to have more opportunities to take marks and convert goals. Winner of this game plays the Brisbane Lions the following week.
Collingwood won their categories from handballs by +15 (119 - 104), hit-outs were won by +2 (28 - 26), stoppage clearances had a differential of +4 (19 - 15), while contested possessions had an advantage of +11 (120 - 109), +6 for tackles (48 - 42), and Inside 50s were won narrowly by +2 ( 40 - 38 ). West Coast controlled most of the key indicators by winning disposals by +3 (285 - 282), kicks were won by +18 (181 - 163), while uncontested possessions had a differential of +13 (176 - 163), with clearances won by +3 (30 - 27), +7 from centre clearances ( 15 - 8 ), and intercept possessions had a margin of +3 (56 - 53). Marks were won by +26 (87 - 61), with +24 for uncontested marks (74 - 50), Contested Marks had a margin of +2 (13 - 11), with an added advantage of +3 for Marks Inside 50 (10 - 7), and Tackles Inside 50 was +1 (8 - 7) for the evening.
Adam Treloar (25 disposals @ 76%, 400 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 15 handballs, 9 score involvements, 5 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) found time and space for the majority of the evening to use the ball effectively. He gave Collingwood every chance to score some goals with his creativity and running power catching the Eagles off balance.
Taylor Adams (24 disposals @ 46%, 374 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 12 handballs, 8 tackles, 7 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) won the ball at will inside the packs, provided territory like Treloar, but not as effectively as he or the team would have desired. Adams saved Collingwood's bacon in the dying seconds by closing down the ball movement of the Eagles in the centre square to allow the Magpies to regain possession who would then maintain possession and milk the clock to ice a pulsating final in their favour.
Scott Pendlebury (18 disposals @ 61%, 326 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements, 6 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) had a modest night by his standards, but still won possessions and clearances at key times, and allowed the team to attack constantly.
Chris Mayne (18 disposals @ 89%, 134 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 11 handballs, 6 marks, 2 tackles & 3 score involvements) provided defensive cover from the wing really well by taking marks at the right time when the Eagles were pressing hard.
Josh Daicos (17 disposals @ 82%, 192 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 10 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles & 4 score involvements) displayed excellent composure under pressure with his ball use. Generated scores when they were on offer.
Levi Greenwood (13 disposals @ 62%, 195 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 8 tackles & 3 Inside 50s) gave Collingwood's midfield a hard and uncompromising edge with his tackling pressure and ability to generate a few forward entries, while also minimising the impact of Tim Kelly in the process.
Brodie Grundy (12 disposals @ 75%, 10 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 19 hit-outs, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances & 2 stoppage clearances) started the game very poorly, before responding in the last quarter with a couple of telling marks to slow the tempo of the game down. Grundy's tackle on Darling in the third term was his biggest moment of the night. Would like more output from you in our club's next final, Brodie.
Darcy Cameron (7 disposals @ 71%, 117 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 9 hit-outs, 5 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 3 Contested Marks & 2 score involvements) was given a key role at the start of the third and fourth terms by taking on Nic Naitanui at centre bounces with Grundy put on the bench on both occasions. Camron won some taps and did neutralise Naitanui to an extent without being able to dominate against him, nor was Collingwood's midfield in general who allowed their opponents to have a free run at the ball, and had time and space to find marking targets to expose Collingwood's defence. Thankfully, the Woods were able to prevail against that onslaught.
Jack Crisp (16 disposals @ 56%, 295 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 8 tackles, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) played a very simple game of footy which was suited for a final. Won the ball regularly, pumped it forward and made his tackles stick to prevent any goals being conceded.
Brayden Maynard (14 disposals @ 86%, 293 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 2 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) had his hands full in his efforts to curtail the mercurial Liam Ryan, who probably won the match-up convincingly. Maynard ended up having the last laugh with the Magpies getting over the line, despite Liam Ryan showing Maynard the ball in an act of bravado that I would not have expected. Bounce back with aplomb against the Cats, Brayden.
Darcy Moore (13 disposals @ 77%, 423 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 2 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 6 Rebound 50s) provided plenty of rebound from defence, but his effectiveness was not there, plus he needed to be accountable for Jack Darling, which made his ability to take intercept marks that much difficult and unlikely. May get to play off his opponent against Geelong a lot more to take those marks next week.
John Noble (12 disposals @ 67%, 259 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 2 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles & 2 score involvements) was largely forced to hurry the ball on under pressure which reduced his ability to be neat and effective. Kicked a great goal in the second term to maintain Collingwood's lead at that stage.
Jack Madgen (12 disposals @ 83%, 261 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles & 4 Rebound 50s) stood up under pressure in his first final for the club. Used the ball effectively and took his fair share of marks. Madgen has filled the void really well without Jeremy Howe by playing his role well.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (12 disposals @ 92%, 3 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 7 score involvements & 1 goal) provided a conduit for his teammates as a marking option, and was able impact the scoreboard with a well-judged mark before playing on to convert a goal that would give Collingwood back the lead during the third term in a game full of lead changes.
Jaidyn Stephenson (10 disposals @ 70%, 357 metres gained, 9 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 6 marks, 3 score involvements & 4 Inside 50s) made a welcome return to form as a high half-forward that would play as an extra winger to take his marks. Worked hard into defence to save a goal with a brilliant spoil, and was able to use his pace to his advantage whenever he found space.
Brody Mihocek (10 disposals @ 80%, 256 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 3 goals) struggled early, before taking the game by storm in the second half, especially in the last quarter with two telling goals which proved to be enough when the final siren sounded.
Jordan De Goey (9 disposals @ 56%, 304 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 6 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 2 goals) was shut down in the first two quarters, before scoring two cracking goals, including a goal on his non-preferred foot (drop punt on his left boot) from 45 metres against the run of play, before capitalising on a brilliant right-foot snap from a stoppage during the final term.
Jamie Elliott (9 disposals @ 56%, 127 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 3 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 4 score involvements, 4 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 1 goal) chipped in with a couple of crucial centre clearances when they were at a premium, while converting a timely goal during the second term when the team needed goals to be kicked.
Mason Cox (6 disposals @ 83%, 125 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 4 kicks, 2 handballs, 5 marks, 4 Contested Marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 4 score involvements & 3 goals) tore the game to shreds in the opening term to set the tone for the team's victory. His opening quarter was very similar to the second quarter of the Preliminary Final against Richmond in 2018, where he took marks and converted goals when they were needed.
Collingwood's next game will be against Geelong on October 10 at the Gabba. The Magpies will have their tails up heading into this game after that pulsating victory against the Eagles. Centre clearances is an area of focus against Geelong, as that almost won West Coast the game. Fix that up, then that will allow the defenders more time to defend, and allow the forwards to have more opportunities to take marks and convert goals. Winner of this game plays the Brisbane Lions the following week.
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