Post Match. Lions pip Pies - all comments

[Piethagoras' Theorem]

I just thought we were a little flat. Look a little too deep and you might just find something that's not there

[Piesnchess]

With hulks and big units like Jon Brown and Buddy still running amok, I am starting to think maybe the Pies need to recruit another key defender, a tall muscular type, big body,who can go onto these monsters. Yes, where do we get one is the question, but if the bloody Pussies can pick up Pods at 28 and turn him into a crack FF, surely there must be some backmen out there we could recruit, some tough bugger ? Is there anyone in the VFL for us who could do this. ?

[3rd degree]

L. Brown has got to be given more time down back, he would have been handy the other night.

[rocketronnie]

With hulks and big units like Jon Brown and Buddy still running amok, I am starting to think maybe the Pies need to recruit another key defender, a tall muscular type, big body,who can go onto these monsters. Yes, where do we get one is the question, but if the bloody Pussies can pick up Pods at 28 and turn him into a crack FF, surely there must be some backmen out there we could recruit, some tough bugger ? Is there anyone in the VFL for us who could do this. ?

We've got one and his name is Leigh Brown. You may recall the job he did on J. Brown last year - one of our great efforts from 2009 IIRC....

[Pied Piper]

Can you just imagine the outcry if he'd actually been selected last week though RR?

Reid and N Brown are big boys themselves but the fact is they've got around 50 games between them, N Brown most of those. They'll take time and will occasionally get beaten playing on the best in the business. Some supporters just can't seem to understand or accept that fact.

[ThePieMind]

The eddieland crowd, the vestige of positivity, the eccense of "she"ll be right mate, no probs at all" After that inept display against a third rate Lions outfit. ?? You lot remind me of the steward on the Titanic, who told some poor soul " No need to worry, we just brushed an iceberg,must have broken the propellor, we will be on our way shortly though. Can i get you a cup of tea " ?

Ah Yes, the vestige of positivity will always triumph against the, negativity of the latent pessimists.
Not game to reveal their inner conviction and bias during the good times but wait to bask in the light of hindsight, and claim some profound wisdom on the ocassion of a defeat.
Blessed with this "selective" 20:20 hindsight, they have been slienced for most of the year, but like little mushrooms cultivated with manure they make fleeting appearances, and regurgitate that on which they have been fed.

At least those burdened with the "vestige of positivity", are consistent and ever present.
Like the latent virus, that emerges during a time of vulnerability, lacking the courage to exposed itself during times of strength, you are the curse that hides in every supporter group.
I'm sure that some Geelong supporters vented, when the team lost to both Freo and Carlton, and whose lack of faith has now been exposed.

Yes some are burdened with the "vestige of positivity", but more importantly also blessed with "perspective"

[rocketronnie]

^^ and like all eccentric fringe groups underlying their wisdom in hindsight is the deep seated belief that they know better than everybody else. I do recall the same idiot fringe last year were referring to those who didn't agree with their perpetual whining as "Nothing but Sheep".

[rocketronnie]

Can you just imagine the outcry if he'd actually been selected last week though RR?

Reid and N Brown are big boys themselves but the fact is they've got around 50 games between them, N Brown most of those. They'll take time and will occasionally get beaten playing on the best in the business. Some supporters just can't seem to understand or accept that fact.

Of course PP but then insight into the team's real position or needs etc has never been many on here's strongpoint. One should never let reality get in the way of a good self important rant.

[Lazza]

Can you just imagine the outcry if he'd actually been selected last week though RR?

Reid and N Brown are big boys themselves but the fact is they've got around 50 games between them, N Brown most of those. They'll take time and will occasionally get beaten playing on the best in the business. Some supporters just can't seem to understand or accept that fact.

Of course PP but then insight into the team's real position or needs etc has never been many on here's strongpoint. One should never let reality get in the way of a good self important rant.

I cant ever recall universal agreement with any selected team. I guess that's the point about debate but ultimately, we should all maybe defer to the fact that the Selection Committe knows best 99% of the time although they too are human and therefore make mistakes.

[Piesnchess]

The eddieland crowd, the vestige of positivity, the eccense of "she"ll be right mate, no probs at all" After that inept display against a third rate Lions outfit. ?? You lot remind me of the steward on the Titanic, who told some poor soul " No need to worry, we just brushed an iceberg,must have broken the propellor, we will be on our way shortly though. Can i get you a cup of tea " ?

Ah Yes, the vestige of positivity will always triumph against the, negativity of the latent pessimists.
Not game to reveal their inner conviction and bias during the good times but wait to bask in the light of hindsight, and claim some profound wisdom on the ocassion of a defeat.
Blessed with this "selective" 20:20 hindsight, they have been slienced for most of the year, but like little mushrooms cultivated with manure they make fleeting appearances, and regurgitate that on which they have been fed.

At least those burdened with the "vestige of positivity", are consistent and ever present.
Like the latent virus, that emerges during a time of vulnerability, lacking the courage to exposed itself during times of strength, you are the curse that hides in every supporter group.
I'm sure that some Geelong supporters vented, when the team lost to both Freo and Carlton, and whose lack of faith has now been exposed.

Yes some are burdened with the "vestige of positivity", but more importantly also blessed with "perspective"

Perspective is in the eye of the beholder pal. My perspective is that we drop stone cold games we should never lose, far too regularly, against thiird rate outfits, and we do it ad nauseum. Bucks has alluded to it, and it has been ongoing now for years. Truly great sides dont do this on a regular basis,as we do. How can we beat top team Freo at Subi, a terrific win, then turn in that woeful effort last Sat against the injured Lions.? The loss to the Cats was honourable, but there was no honour the other night,just more of the same old let down against lower sides on their knees. You may put up with it, but we so called "pessimists" dont, we want accountabillity and change,so this type of crap does not happen. There are none so blind as those that cannot see.

[Pied Piper]

That is the first game we "should" have won against supposedly inferior opposition that we didn't win all year.

In fact, it's just about the first game we "should" have won against supposedly inferior opposition but didn't since Anzac Day last year.

Arguably it's more important that we "should" have won the games against the Saints and Geelong, since we had opportunities to win both.

As I have said before, losses happen. Most premiership sides don't go through seasons undefeated. In fact, most lose at least four or five games along the way. Geelong, St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs have all lost games they "should" have won.

Sometimes losses happen because players are flat. That certainly seemed the case for a few of our boys on the weekend. And sometimes they happen because the opposition play well, and their best players get on top of ours. That definitely happened on the weekend. Sometimes the selections are wrong. That probably was the case on the weekend, too.

Such are the vicissitudes of team sport. Unfortunately, like a teenager having his first sip of scotch, some people find the taste of defeat too hard to swallow - even as it becomes notably more occasional.

You'd think someone who had been following the Pies as long as Piesnchess constantly tells you he has would have learned to deal with it. But he's still like a teenager, coughing and spluttering as he struggles to hold his whiskey.

I will now wait to be predictably told, again, that I must therefore be satisfied with mediocrity.

[ThePieMind]

The eddieland crowd, the vestige of positivity, the eccense of "she"ll be right mate, no probs at all" After that inept display against a third rate Lions outfit. ?? You lot remind me of the steward on the Titanic, who told some poor soul " No need to worry, we just brushed an iceberg,must have broken the propellor, we will be on our way shortly though. Can i get you a cup of tea " ?

Ah Yes, the vestige of positivity will always triumph against the, negativity of the latent pessimists.
Not game to reveal their inner conviction and bias during the good times but wait to bask in the light of hindsight, and claim some profound wisdom on the ocassion of a defeat.
Blessed with this "selective" 20:20 hindsight, they have been slienced for most of the year, but like little mushrooms cultivated with manure they make fleeting appearances, and regurgitate that on which they have been fed.

At least those burdened with the "vestige of positivity", are consistent and ever present.
Like the latent virus, that emerges during a time of vulnerability, lacking the courage to exposed itself during times of strength, you are the curse that hides in every supporter group.
I'm sure that some Geelong supporters vented, when the team lost to both Freo and Carlton, and whose lack of faith has now been exposed.

Yes some are burdened with the "vestige of positivity", but more importantly also blessed with "perspective"

Perspective is in the eye of the beholder pal. My perspective is that we drop stone cold games we should never lose, far too regularly, against thiird rate outfits, and we do it ad nauseum. Bucks has alluded to it, and it has been ongoing now for years. Truly great sides dont do this on a regular basis,as we do. How can we beat top team Freo at Subi, a terrific win, then turn in that woeful effort last Sat against the injured Lions.? The loss to the Cats was honourable, but there was no honour the other night,just more of the same old let down against lower sides on their knees. You may put up with it, but we so called "pessimists" dont, we want accountabillity and change,so this type of crap does not happen. There are none so blind as those that cannot see.

Both the above bolded statements prove my point - you lack perspective pure and simple.
You want change as soon as something goes wrong, ie MM & EDDIE need to go.
But we had an "honorable loss to the Cats", and "we beat team FREO at Subi".
Now one week later the sky is falling - this is lack of perspective, and panicked, irrational, hysteria.
Grow a pair and show your conviction by pushing for change regardless of whether we win all lose - then I can respect your perspective, and conviction.
Otherwise you and JACK are just opportunisitic hysterics, looking to vent your spleen at MM and Eddie after defeats, with hindsight backing your smug claims of "i told you so".
But when we win - well then all is forgotten and the world is fine.
It is this hypocrisy and insincerity that is galling to me and many others.

[rocketronnie]

Perspective is in the eye of the beholder pal. My perspective is that we drop stone cold games we should never lose, far too regularly, against thiird rate outfits, and we do it ad nauseum. Bucks has alluded to it, and it has been ongoing now for years. Truly great sides dont do this on a regular basis,as we do. How can we beat top team Freo at Subi, a terrific win, then turn in that woeful effort last Sat against the injured Lions.? The loss to the Cats was honourable, but there was no honour the other night,just more of the same old let down against lower sides on their knees. You may put up with it, but we so called "pessimists" dont, we want accountabillity and change,so this type of crap does not happen. There are none so blind as those that cannot see.

Third rate outfit? Three Triple Premiership players, one a Brownlow Medalist, a premiership player from another club, a multiple Coleman Medal winner, at least one Rising Star winner and some up and comers with their backs to the wall on their home turf. Third rate outfit - your twisting this story to meet your own neurotic needs.... Only one more thing to be said here about your argument...

[Bob Sugar]

Perspective is in the eye of the beholder pal. My perspective is that we drop stone cold games we should never lose, far too regularly, against thiird rate outfits, and we do it ad nauseum. Bucks has alluded to it, and it has been ongoing now for years. Truly great sides dont do this on a regular basis,as we do. How can we beat top team Freo at Subi, a terrific win, then turn in that woeful effort last Sat against the injured Lions.? The loss to the Cats was honourable, but there was no honour the other night,just more of the same old let down against lower sides on their knees. You may put up with it, but we so called "pessimists" dont, we want accountabillity and change,so this type of crap does not happen. There are none so blind as those that cannot see.

Third rate outfit? Three Triple Premiership players, one a Brownlow Medalist, a premiership player from another club, a multiple Coleman Medal winner, at least one Rising Star winner and some up and comers with their backs to the wall on their home turf. Third rate outfit - your twisting this story to meet your own neurotic needs.... Only one more thing to be said here about your argument...

3rd rate outfits dont lose 7 in a row , apparantly 3rd rate outfits can lose 6 in a row though.

[rocketronnie]

Perspective is in the eye of the beholder pal. My perspective is that we drop stone cold games we should never lose, far too regularly, against thiird rate outfits, and we do it ad nauseum. Bucks has alluded to it, and it has been ongoing now for years. Truly great sides dont do this on a regular basis,as we do. How can we beat top team Freo at Subi, a terrific win, then turn in that woeful effort last Sat against the injured Lions.? The loss to the Cats was honourable, but there was no honour the other night,just more of the same old let down against lower sides on their knees. You may put up with it, but we so called "pessimists" dont, we want accountabillity and change,so this type of crap does not happen. There are none so blind as those that cannot see.

Third rate outfit? Three Triple Premiership players, one a Brownlow Medalist, a premiership player from another club, a multiple Coleman Medal winner, at least one Rising Star winner and some up and comers with their backs to the wall on their home turf. Third rate outfit - your twisting this story to meet your own neurotic needs.... Only one more thing to be said here about your argument...

3rd rate outfits dont lose 7 in a row , apparantly 3rd rate outfits can lose 6 in a row though.

My main point is you would never under-estimate an outfit with that sort of personnel particularly when their season is on the line as it was on Saturday night. A premiership contender - no. A third rate outfit - I don't think so...