US election 2020
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Wokko
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A few would, anyone who's old enough to remember the Cold War would generally see socialism as undesirable and Trump is closer to a being a Centrist Democrat than Bernie is. I'd be more inclined to think they'd stay home and the "Orange man bad" crowd would hold their nose. Thing is the Republican Never Trumpers would probably throw a vote to Biden but never to Warren or Sanders.
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I wouldn’t be so sure about that, though that’s one outcome I certainly won’t be betting on (particularly after last time)!
In the meantime, CNN’s, uh, “performance” has not gone unnoticed:
https://www.thenation.com/article/sande ... nn-debate/
In the meantime, CNN’s, uh, “performance” has not gone unnoticed:
https://www.thenation.com/article/sande ... nn-debate/
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Wokko
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stui magpie
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I'm not going to try to pick all that apart, some of the critisism if fair, some harsh.
On the unemployment rate, I trust those figures as much as I'd trust a Guardian article. Every government of all colours tweaks the criteria to try to make themselves look good. To my mind, a far better measure would be "employment rate". You could potentially draw on tax data to measure who is earning enough to pay tax, that's just off the top of my head and there may be valid reasons why a different or combined data set would be needed.
So using Hispanics as an example, many of whom won't be registered for any kind of benefit so I have NFI how they know how many are unemployed, but they'd have an idea how many are in the country and measuring how many are employed would be a truer stat.
Having said that, assuming the way the data is collected and measured hasn't fundamentally changed, that's still a big improvement in Hispanic and Black employment, GFC not withstanding
On the unemployment rate, I trust those figures as much as I'd trust a Guardian article. Every government of all colours tweaks the criteria to try to make themselves look good. To my mind, a far better measure would be "employment rate". You could potentially draw on tax data to measure who is earning enough to pay tax, that's just off the top of my head and there may be valid reasons why a different or combined data set would be needed.
So using Hispanics as an example, many of whom won't be registered for any kind of benefit so I have NFI how they know how many are unemployed, but they'd have an idea how many are in the country and measuring how many are employed would be a truer stat.
Having said that, assuming the way the data is collected and measured hasn't fundamentally changed, that's still a big improvement in Hispanic and Black employment, GFC not withstanding
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Tucker nails the situation with the Sanders-Warren feud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj-h_wQpalA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj-h_wQpalA
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More lies out of the White House - why are none of us surprised? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-17/ ... i/11877814
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stui magpie
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hang on a freaking second, what lies or did I miss something?Pies4shaw wrote:More lies out of the White House - why are none of us surprised? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-17/ ... i/11877814
No casualties is true.
No service people were hurt would also be true.
If they gave a statement that said "11 people were treated for symptoms of concussion, but no one was injured" would that suffice?
Now, if they said no one was injured then came out later and said 11 people had been treated for symptoms of death and/or dismemberment I might give it some credence.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Wokko
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Concussion?Pies4shaw wrote:More lies out of the White House - why are none of us surprised? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-17/ ... i/11877814
More like why are none of us caring.