Coronavirus 3 - Al Pacino's turn to mumble

[Dave The Man]

Yes, Dave. That's what I take from the figures, too. NSW has 4 deaths in a week and a small but increasing number of cases and it is a national emergency. The UK has about 300,000 cases and 450 deaths in a week and they call it "learning to live with the virus".

Well UK are risking 100's of People's Lives

[Dave The Man]

This popped up in my Facebook feed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... final.html

So I get that Piers Morgan is far from everyone's cup of tea, but it's actually an informative read, him describing how he caught Covid at the Euro final despite being fully vaccinated, and how it impacted him.

and Showing how Dangerous having no Social Distancing in Huge Crowds can be very Dangerous

[eddiesmith]

This popped up in my Facebook feed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... final.html

So I get that Piers Morgan is far from everyone's cup of tea, but it's actually an informative read, him describing how he caught Covid at the Euro final despite being fully vaccinated, and how it impacted him.

and Showing how Dangerous having no Social Distancing in Huge Crowds can be very Dangerous

But that completely flies in the face of all the blame for current lockdowns on the vaccine rollouts. If you’ve still got massive problems at 50-60% vaccination rates, then nothing this government could have done that would have stopped these current lockdowns?

[Dave The Man]

[What'sinaname]

UK cases now seem to be coming down after the spike of 54,000 cases on July 17.

Even Netherlands is seeing the number of new cases on a downward trend.

[Pies4shaw]

Let's check it in a few days. The UK's reporting typically goes down at the weekend. The deaths also purportedly dropped from 86 to 28 yesterday - this is about when they count things rather than what happened on their Saturday.

Similarly, the "spike" was an outlier. That's why I always review figures by reference to 7-day rolling averages where such large numbers are involved - that smooths out the spikes and troughs in the reporting.

One doesn't look for micro-trends - one needs to look at the overall direction of the data. At the moment, you'd say that the new reported case numbers are not getting dramatically worse over the last 4 or 5 days. Is that a trend? we'll know in a little while.

In the Netherlands, we know that they had a ridiculous spike in cases (7-day rolling average high of just over 10,000 just 18 days after the rolling average low of 588) and the Government then apologised for getting its advice wrong and significantly changed the rules.

Also, the figures come off the back of the European Championships (final was 12 July, our time). That's a sui generis event. I have no idea what positive or negative effect it will have had on figures. I do expect, though, that there will have been a reduction in large population mingling in the immediate aftermath. What that means for numbers, I don't know. Just exercise caution on these case numbers (up or down) for the time being.

[roar]

If you’ve still got massive problems at 50-60% vaccination rates, then nothing this government could have done that would have stopped these current lockdowns?

Except, of course, implementing proper quarantine facilities for those entering the country, thereby stopping the delta variant from getting out into the community in the first place.

[Pies4shaw]

From the NSW Department of Heath (twitter):

NSW recorded 145 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night.

Fifty-eight cases were in isolation throughout their infectious period and 25 cases were in isolation for part of their infectious period. Fifty-one cases were infectious in the community, and the isolation status of 11 cases remains under investigation.

So, they had 58 cases under control, 25 partly under control, 51 completely out of control and 11 they have no idea about. Or, as I prefer, they had 87 that were either partly or wholly in the community during their infectious period or about which they know nothing.

In Victoria, there were 11 new cases. The Government says that "All new locally-acquired cases are linked to the current outbreaks, and all were in quarantine throughout their entire infectious period."

[think positive]

This popped up in my Facebook feed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... final.html

So I get that Piers Morgan is far from everyone's cup of tea, but it's actually an informative read, him describing how he caught Covid at the Euro final despite being fully vaccinated, and how it impacted him.

that’s a really good read

[Dave The Man]

What you think of the Push of Keeping Schools Open During Lockdown IF there no Covid Cases at the School?

[stui magpie]

^

I don't have a fixed view of school closures, particularly with Delta.

Anyway, over in the UK, their plan may just be working or it's too soon to tell, but daily cases (and the 7 day average) has been going down for 5 consecutive days.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57962995

Alternatively, less reputable but more detail. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... surge.html

[eddiesmith]

Schools should be remaining open, but Dopey thinks parents driving their kids to school is the most dangerous thing they can do…

[Dave The Man]

Glady forgot Something

https://twitter.com/AsheRevenge/status/ ... 97509?s=20

[What'sinaname]

^

I don't have a fixed view of school closures, particularly with Delta.

Anyway, over in the UK, their plan may just be working or it's too soon to tell, but daily cases (and the 7 day average) has been going down for 5 consecutive days.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57962995

Alternatively, less reputable but more detail. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... surge.html

Yep, the initial surge is just those unvaccinated getting infected. That will subside quickly as so long as death rates stay low, then all is good.

[Pies4shaw]